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Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:51 am to
Posted by AndyJ
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:51 am to


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Answer me this batman, why aren't naturopathic doctors licensed in all 50 states? They take as many or more classes as osteopaths and infinitely more classes on diet and nutrition.


Physician here. There are definitely many flaws in the medical system. But this pro-naturopath post is one of the most idiotic things I have ever seen on here. Probably would be the worst if not for Hank and Cubbies
This post was edited on 9/6/25 at 9:55 am
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
11476 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:53 am to
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I'm with 50% of the public is below the average IQ. Now maybe the upper percentiles can do what you suggest but I've heard a patient call an EKG a "heart-a-ground".

I understand your point, and a part of me still slightly chuckles inside whenever I hear it called the “rotary cup.”

I’m just saying things like reviews, asking friends, etc also exist for doctors if you make a small amount of effort.
Posted by cusoonkpd
Big Mamou
Member since Apr 2015
1831 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:54 am to
The Covid bullshite did more to destroy the public’s faith in medicine than one can imagine. It will be years before the public trusts CDC and WHO recommendations.

I say this as a medical professional who has practiced for more than 40 years.
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:55 am to
I wouldn’t say I look down upon them. But I certainly don’t hold them in the same esteem as I used to. The entire industry failed us during Covid.

We knew pretty early on that it affected fat people disproportionately but what did we do? We shut down gyms, closed public parks, cancelled outdoor sporting events for our children and then told everyone that McDonalds and Taco Bell were “essential.” We basically just quit educating our children and told everyone to stay inside instead of going outside for fresh air. It was all so nonsensical that even the most lay person knew it was retarded.

I’ve also dated a couple of doctors the past few years so they can’t be all that smart if they let me frick them.

Do you have to be smart to be a physician? Sure, but it’s mostly just being willing to put in the work. The pure brainpower required to the job is probably on par with most other professional occupations.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
37204 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:57 am to
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I’m just saying things like reviews, asking friends, etc also exist for doctors if you make a small amount of effort.
And I can agree with that.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
4664 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 10:04 am to
“Good luck with that surgery,or brain tumor or broken limbs”

The really smart Drs.with critical thinking skills go into the surgical fields.
Family practice,Internal medicine,those sorts of Drs.are are mostly the type that have just been indoctrinated by the Pharma controlled medical education system.They just memorize and regurgitate,follow the guidelines,etc.(Cookbook medicine).

I said most,the Family practice Dr.I ended up going to when forced by my Medicare Advantage plan was a hero in my opinion.During Covid he gave ivermectin to his sick pts.free of charge from a large stash he had procured somewhere.Swore them to secrecy to try and avoid problems with the Medical cabal,also caught grief from his partners.One of them finally came around seeing his success.All this was from his office nurse.

I didn’t know all this when I got Covid,I took feed store ivermectin.Worked fine.
Recently found out another F.P Dr.in the area gave his Covid pts.hydroxychloroquine with very good results.This was from his N.P.
So they’re not all shills for Pharma.

Most of the T.D. Drs. that post here don’t impress me,certainly not as much as they are impressed with themselves.Their claim to fame is that they went to medical school and “follow,the science”.
Fauci,Walensky, whole bunch of other quacks went to medical school.
How did that work out during Covid ?
Posted by Louisianalabguy
Member since Jul 2017
1676 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 10:09 am to
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I believe medical students go to school for that kind of stuff, Robin

Really, most doctors are cardiologist? I think not.
Posted by BamaSaint
Moh-beel
Member since Mar 2013
3748 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 10:09 am to
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LSUA 75

That's a lot to post about my original comment. What about my original comment would suggest we look down on medical students in the coming years. I don't give a frick about covid. It was a stupid fricking OP that I responded to accordingly
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
80332 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 10:09 am to
AI is already successfully diagnosing medical conditions with higher accuracy than humans.
Posted by BamaSaint
Moh-beel
Member since Mar 2013
3748 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 10:11 am to
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Really, most doctors are cardiologist? I think not.

Did I say that?
Take the loss Robin. This thread didn't go like you thought it would. You had a few PT idiots bite, but when you got called out, you ran away
This post was edited on 9/6/25 at 10:17 am
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
69723 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 10:13 am to
Ok

Care to expand on that?
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
17693 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 10:18 am to
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That by the time they become entrenched in their careers, most people will look down on them. You know, like they do attorneys and car salesmen.


My doc and I recently talked about all of the money invading medicine. He doesn’t write for unnecessary meds or procedures and goes the home remedy route before exploring alternatives.

I still look into things that he recommends, but I trust my doc unless he recommends something outlandish, which he’s never done.
Posted by Louisianalabguy
Member since Jul 2017
1676 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 10:21 am to
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Licensed by whom? You want people who don’t go to medical school and residency, to be “licensed” by the board that is meant for people who go to medical school and residency?

Make it make sense.

Certainly. Naturopaths are only licensed in relatively few states. The answer is simple. Their practices revolve around natural ways to treat chronic diseases. It means diet and nutrition including supplements are much more primary than synthetic drugs. They will prescribe drugs, but do a much better job helping patients work through their health issues naturally. To my knowledge, no insurance covers them.
That's why they aren't more popular. Their medical schools and their practices are not controlled by pharmaceutical corporations.
You may find a naturopath but it's likely they can't even prescribe simple antibiotics in your state.
This should definitely change and give people more options in their health care.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
17693 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 10:22 am to
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AI is already successfully diagnosing medical conditions with higher accuracy than humans.


Assuming AI could diagnose everything perfectly, it’s still vulnerable to needing accurate information from the patient before doing so. This assumes that a patent’s health literacy is where it needs to be to even know what needs to be given to AI for a proper diagnosis.

Most patients, myself included, don’t know what we don’t know.

If people want to trust computers for medical diagnoses, they can, but not me.
Posted by Louisianalabguy
Member since Jul 2017
1676 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 10:27 am to
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Seriously, if you don’t trust doctors….don’t see a doctor. No one is forcing anyone to make an appointment with a Big Pharma shill. This is completely within your control. I don’t trust financial advisors. I don’t start a million threads about them…I just don’t interact with them. Problem solved.

That is the issue. Most people blindly trust allopaths not realizing that most of their education revolves around pharmaceutical intervention and they have virtually no traing in simple diet and nutrition. Many people especially my age were raised this way. You know, all doctors were like Marcus Welby, the epitome of the highest educational standards mixed with wisdom and a true caring of their patients.
Unfortunately, now most allopaths belong to a clinic and have to tow the corporate line.
Posted by BamaSaint
Moh-beel
Member since Mar 2013
3748 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 10:30 am to
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This should definitely change and give people more options in their health care

I agree with that. But it still doesn't forgive your stupid OP. If people want to die, let them die. But don't expect your life insurance to cover stupid shite. There's a reason why we are living longer
Posted by Louisianalabguy
Member since Jul 2017
1676 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 10:30 am to
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Physician here. There are definitely many flaws in the medical system. But this pro-naturopath post is one of the most idiotic things I have ever seen on here. Probably would be the worst if not for Hank and Cubbies

You failed to give your reasons for not licensing naturopaths. Please doctor, state the reasons naturopaths are not licensed in all 50 states.
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
7791 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 10:30 am to
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why isn't this available to public...AI...just looked at screen


Healthcare lobby bro.
Posted by Louisianalabguy
Member since Jul 2017
1676 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 10:38 am to
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There's a reason why we are living longer

If you look at recent statistics, we aren't living longer.
Now, if you look at the time before sanitary water and personal grooming habits got much better, say around the beginning of the 1900's until today, life spans and health have increased. If I remember correctly, penicillin wasn't used a lot until the time period during WW2. It was seen as a miracle because it was.
Things have now become very unbalanced to the other extreme.
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
9405 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 10:41 am to
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That by the time they become entrenched in their careers, most people will look down on them. You know, like they do attorneys and car salesmen.


This isn’t true at all. At worst it will be exactly like politicians. People “hate politicians” but don’t have a problem with “their politician” (or don’t think tgeir politician is part of the problem).
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