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I wonder how many seats NY/CA would have lost if citizenship question was allowed?

Posted on 4/27/21 at 6:40 am
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13379 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 6:40 am
Remember that huge fight over the question. I still dont understand in a sane country, why, when counting citizens, you cant ask if they are a citizen.

Sure some would have lied and said they were a citizen, the majority would have avoided the census all together, for fear of INS visiting.

The true tally would have been astounding with the decades of migration of illegals in those states. Yes TX and to a lesser extent FL, but it would have been interesting to see the dramatic shift in reps from each state.
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
10880 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 6:46 am to
Cali pretty big. NY probably not as much.
Posted by salty1
Member since Jun 2015
4429 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 6:48 am to
I don’t understand why Trump didn’t just decree that the questionnaire would have the question. It’s not like the left would hate him any less. His base was all for it.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
4991 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 6:54 am to
Don’t know about NY. The California answer is four.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15968 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 7:14 am to
I wonder why the house and senate don’t refuse to seat congressmen and senators from states that allow non citizens to vote?
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
1928 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 7:59 am to
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I still dont understand in a sane country, why, when counting citizens, you cant ask if they are a citizen


The census is designed to count people in the country, with very limited exceptions, and not citizens.
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
1928 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 8:01 am to
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I wonder why the house and senate don’t refuse to seat congressmen and senators from states that allow non citizens to vote?


Are there any states that allow non citizens to vote in federal elections? I know a few do for local and state but I haven’t seen any that do for federal elections.
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
1928 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 8:01 am to
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I don’t understand why Trump didn’t just decree that the questionnaire would have the question. It’s not like the left would hate him any less. His base was all for it.



He tried and the Supreme Court said it wasn’t allowed.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23189 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 8:03 am to
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The census is designed to count people in the country, with very limited exceptions, and not citizens.


False.

The census asks lots of demographical questions for policy making purposes. The idea citizenship wouldn't be a useful one is retarded
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
1928 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 8:07 am to
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The census asks lots of demographical questions for policy making purposes. The idea citizenship wouldn't be a useful one is retarded


My statement was responding to his saying that the census is there to count citizens. That is simply not the case. Could you also ask that question and not use it for reapportionment? I think the SC would have been fine with that if the Commerce Department had followed proper procedures to add it.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23189 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 8:08 am to
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think the SC would have been fine with that if the Commerce Department had followed proper procedures to add it.


:lol
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