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re: I Went to See Unplanned

Posted on 4/13/19 at 11:02 am to
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53894 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 11:02 am to
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I'm not watching sponsored propaganda on YouTube. I will say that I'm not at all surprised to see where you get your information. The "science" of emotion...


It wouldn't hurt you to watch those abortion vids, the abortionist doesn't really get into any religious stuff, pretty much recounts his journey from being a pro choice abortionist to his realization that the abortion procedure is murder. It's pretty good, he's not preachy at all.

The other is from a woman who had several abortions and coincidentally became an employee with Planned Parenthood, she is a Catholic so she does bring the Creator into the testimony but that's not the main theme of her testimony. This woman was very callous toward the pro life argument until one day she was asked to become more involved in the reality of what actually goes on when a life is destroyed.

It'll do ya some good to listen to real people who were totally on board with abortion but then a seminal event in their life changed their hearts......, as a PT friend, you need it baw.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 11:05 am to
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Yeah, mock auto correct. Good come back. Very compelling argument.




Nope. That had nothing to do with grammar and everything to do with your ignorance on the issue.

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How so?


You think babies are being murdered by the millions but you have a clear conscience about it because you are fighting the good fight in a safe space.

Then, you're a big enough hypocrite to call anyone out for anything.

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your side


What's my side?

I'd bet every house I own that you couldn't come close to articulating my position on this issue.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 11:06 am to
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It wouldn't hurt you to watch those abortion vids


It wouldn't benefit me, either. Emotional arguments aren't something I'm ever going to find compelling.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53894 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 11:12 am to
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It wouldn't benefit me, either. Emotional arguments aren't something I'm ever going to find compelling.


I don't think the abortionist is using emotion as the primary reason for ceasing his abortion business...he's actually coming from a science perspective.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53894 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 11:15 am to
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quote: It wouldn't hurt you to watch those abortion vids


It wouldn't benefit me, either. Emotional arguments aren't something I'm ever going to find compelling.


I think you may be at a minimum 1/4 Vulcan, which side of the family is related to Spock?
These human emotions are just the worst.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 11:16 am to
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I don't think the abortionist is using emotion as the primary reason for ceasing his abortion business...he's actually coming from a science perspective.


If he's an absolutist, I very much doubt that. It's near impossible to say all abortions should be illegal without injecting some form of emotion. At a minimum, his views are subjective and I likely wouldn't find those compelling, either.

I'm not stopping you from linking those videos, btw. Even if I don't watch them, someone else might.
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
5612 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 11:16 am to
So i am ignorant, and a hypocrite. Ok.

All i know about you is that you bare arguing for the killing of defenseless babies.

You have assumed everything else in your responses to me.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 11:18 am to
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So i am ignorant, and a hypocrite.


You've done nothing to suggest otherwise.

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All i know about you is that you bare arguing for the killing of defenseless babies. 


Nope. You don't know anything about me, obviously.

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You have assumed everything else in your responses to me.


I've made inferences based on your responses. So far, they've been accurate and they usually are.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 11:19 am to
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These human emotions are just the worst.


Agreed.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53894 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 11:19 am to
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I Went See Unplanned So i am ignorant, and a hypocrite. Ok. All i know about you is that you bare arguing for the killing of defenseless babies. You have assumed everything else in your responses to me.



Hey, I'm not a psychiatrist but Displaced has had some shite go down in his life, you don't develop the attitudes he has in general without some suffering and pain.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53894 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 11:21 am to
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quote: I don't think the abortionist is using emotion as the primary reason for ceasing his abortion business...he's actually coming from a science perspective. If he's an absolutist, I very much doubt that. It's near impossible to say all abortions should be illegal without injecting some form of emotion. At a minimum, his views are subjective and I likely wouldn't find those compelling, either. I'm not stopping you from linking those videos, btw. Even if I don't watch them, someone else might.


No, they would be for you, I've linked them on other threads.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 11:22 am to
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No, they would be for you, I've linked them on other threads.


Cool. My points stand. Link them if you want. I'm not stopping you.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85447 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 11:27 am to
So I read the thread and this is what our resident Progressives said:

She's lying. It's about her getting rich. She doesn't actually think abortion is wrong. Anybody who disagrees being emotional and ignorant. More abortions. Free abortions. People who care about aborted babies have the feels. It was made to make the filmmakers rich. Abortion is freedom. Catholics can't be anti-abortion because they are pedophiles. The movie is propaganda. An appeal to authority stating abortion ain't all that bad for the baby actually. A steak and an aborted fetus are the same thing. A dude bragged that he owns a bunch of houses.

I think that's the totality of the pro-slice em and dice em pro-industrial- baby-slaughtering posters. Let me know if I missed anything.
Stay In your nihilistic sickness, morally-culpable baby-killing bros.

Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56127 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 11:38 am to
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I think that's the totality of the pro-slice em and dice em pro-industrial- baby-slaughtering posters.


A terse but effective post.
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
Cloud 8
Member since Nov 2012
6345 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 1:07 pm to
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You're supposed to say that abortion is the dismemberment of innocent human babies if you want it to be effective.

Yet you are unaffected.

Being a what? Man of science? Moral relativist? Or a person Scripture speaks of as having "seared their consciences as with a hot iron"?

Just what is at the hard core of your mocking, insulting, and, honestly, ignorant trolling? It doesn't seem to be an interest in discussion, debate, or truth seeking.

Others, equally as adamant as you, who support abortion post here and mostly do so reasonably and with civility. AggieHank comes to mind.

So the facts and medical science you demand. Anything you don't want to believe feel free to dismiss as "propaganda".

1. Profit issues.
Profit is neither illegal or immoral. Businesses answer to boards and investors for the profit they earn. Or fail to earn.

Of course the Unplanned movie makers hoped for profit and no stigma should attach to that. To further that end, they sought to advertise on major networks and were refused advertising space they would have paid for and which would have profited the networks. The networks unnecessarily passed up profit which is an unusual thing suggesting motives unrelated to profit making.

Planned Parenthood makes profit and most of its profit from abortions. And also as we learned from enterprising journalists from selling some of those dismembered body parts you referenced in your post.

Movie makers make movie for profit. Networks deny the movie makers advertising space, refusing their money and walking away from profit. Planned Parenthood performs abortions and sells dismembered fetus parts for profit. This is an odd dance going on here.

2. Science



Fetal Pain


Graphic LINK featuring Bernard Nathanson, MD, co-founder of NARAL, and atheist. Possibly NSFW. 1984 Science



This post was edited on 4/13/19 at 1:13 pm
Posted by ToesOnTheNose213
The present
Member since Oct 2007
2028 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 1:40 pm to
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Exactly. It's a billion dollar industry in America to slaughter babies and the pro-kill punks on PT want to make us believe they only care for women.


Tell us again how the only the left operates on 'feelings'
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53894 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 1:44 pm to
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Being a what? Man of science? Moral relativist? Or a person Scripture speaks of as having "seared their consciences as with a hot iron"? Just what is at the hard core of your mocking, insulting, and, honestly, ignorant trolling? It doesn't seem to be an interest in discussion, debate, or truth seeking.


Take it easy on Displaced. I’m convinced he’s had some life changing traumatic events in his life.

Posted by ToesOnTheNose213
The present
Member since Oct 2007
2028 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 1:45 pm to
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We could start by convincing our Catholic politicians in Congress to vote to defund Planned Parenthood. Catholic politicians make up 30% (163) of the current 116th Congress. Unfortunately the number of Catholic politicians who consistently vote pro-life is very small. I did my own research a few years ago (U.S.HoR) and to my surprise there were only four Catholic politicians who had a perfect 100% pro-life score. Most of the politicians who called themselves Catholic had a downright dismal pro-life voting record. I recall the current Speaker of the House (and Catholic) Nancy Pelosi was one of those with a dismal pro-life voting record.


So, you want our representatives to vote in favor of their personal religious beliefs (or, more accurately, your religious beliefs) instead of voting for what their constituents want? That's not how it's supposed to work. You're free to go live in a theocracy if you really want. Let us know how that goes.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 1:47 pm to
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So, you want our representatives to vote in favor of their personal religious beliefs (or, more accurately, your religious beliefs) instead of voting for what their constituents want? That's not how it's supposed to work. You're free to go live in a theocracy if you really want. Let us know how that goes.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45862 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 1:48 pm to
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So, you want our representatives to vote in favor of their personal religious beliefs (or, more accurately, your religious beliefs) instead of voting for what their constituents want? That's not how it's supposed to work. You're free to go live in a theocracy if you really want. Let us know how that goes.
Representatives are allowed to have their own beliefs that guide their actions. Let the people vote to determine whose beliefs/actions better represent their own.
This post was edited on 4/13/19 at 1:49 pm
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