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re: I support the war. Am I wrong?

Posted on 3/24/26 at 3:02 pm to
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
9959 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 3:02 pm to
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• Iran has a strong desire to obtain a nuclear weapon, and to use it, if acquired.
• Iran’s nuclear enrichment capability was destroyed last year.
• The material Iran had already enriched may not have been destroyed.
• Iran will never stop trying to acquire nuclear weapons under the current regime.
• Iran has been rapidly building up its conventional weapons arsenal.
• Iran, at some point soon, will have a large enough arsenal of conventional weapons to prevent anyone from stopping them from rebuilding their nuclear enrichment capabilities.
• Israel was going to bomb Iran with or without us.
• If we didn’t participate, our bases in the ME would have been hit, and therefore, we’d still be heavily involved.
• Iran does not need the ability to strike the US mainland with any weapon to cause great harm to the US

Until proven false, I’m willing to accept all the above as truth.


I will as well.

But, there's no denying that what we (you, me) are doing is supporting the war in spirit only. The money used to pay for it is being printed, it isn't revenue.
Posted by deuceiswild
South La
Member since Nov 2007
4886 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 3:03 pm to
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And no, it’s not worse than dropping a bomb on American citizens.


Acute pain vs chronic pain, IMO.

To be clear, I didn't use the word "worse".
Posted by BCvol
Member since Jan 2022
472 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 3:09 pm to
Interesting, so you believe the Dims are helping out in the coverup?
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
10312 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 3:16 pm to
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The "obliterated" part is confusing you because some people want you to be confused. Personally, I believe we did obliterate their centrifuges (or the vast majority of them) and the facilities they were operating in. But I think it's highly plausible that the already enriched uranium they had (60%) may not have been destroyed. Someone destroying your tools doesn't necessarily destroy the things you've already built with them.


I think language has been used loosely for sure. Which just adds to the confusion. Having enough uranium to make 11 bombs doesn't mean that it has been enriched to that level... but it could be interpreted that way. If Bessent is telling the truth our side is only going to interpret one way. I wouldn't find fault in that at all because the risk is far too great. That statement, if true, was the ultimate FAFO for Iran. But the ghost of WMDs is still out there and thus the skepticism from some.
Posted by BCvol
Member since Jan 2022
472 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 3:37 pm to
Who is us? Who is them?
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
37746 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 4:10 pm to
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I support the war. Am I wrong?

It's happening whether I like it or not. I have no say, which is don't like, but I cannot change it.

I understand why it's happening, and that my opinion is irrelevant in the big picture.

I support our troops and I support their efforts. I trust this administration far more than the last administration. FAR more.

As long as this doesn't drag out into another 20 year war in the burning hellscape of the middle-east, I'm fine with it. As long as we stay out of of it once the IDF and the people of Iran (possibly even the Kurds) take the ground game to the regime to free the country, I'm fine with it.

Now if we put battalions of boots on the ground, I'll have a pretty serious problem with that, though it's still just my irrelevant opinion. But my support for our troops won't end with that.

Iran has been increasingly aggressive and meddlesome since the W. Years and this crap eventually had to be addressed one way or another. I'd rather be handling it now than if it happened under Biden or in the future under Newsome. Just trying to maintain a personal stoicism on the topic.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
96721 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 4:11 pm to
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I’m not entirely opposed, but I’m also not blindly OK with it.


So a fence rider then? Cute.

How do you complain “OMG how did we get here??!!” yet in the same breath are “not entirely opposed”.

Pick and side and own it ol’ chap.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90221 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 4:15 pm to
Ghazi is that you?
Posted by TigerBaitOohHaHa
Member since Jan 2023
2034 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 4:21 pm to
Its a huge gamble that, if it pays off, will be the largest political play of my lifetime. I know "regime change" is a bad word in certain circles, but yes.. if you are going to go after a snake you have to make sure it is dead before you turn your back on it.

It could also turn to shite.

I absolutely support the effort and admire a President willing to put action to words rather than just saying "don't" like the previous administration.
Posted by TexasForever81
Member since Mar 2023
652 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 4:21 pm to
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If you're a Christian


You are not a Christian yourself. Do not try to represent one or critique someone who says he is.

You’re a viscous disgusting person.
Posted by TigerBaitOohHaHa
Member since Jan 2023
2034 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 4:24 pm to
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Yes you're very wrong. If you're a Christian


People using "if you're Christian" like some trump card. Here is a moral dilemma for you:

risk 3,000 servicemen + any collateral casualties now.

OR

wait until Iran has a nuke and hits London killing millions of people?

You see, real life is complicated and full of trade offs so keep your "if you were a real Christian" bullshite to yourself. Once Iran has long range nuclear capabilities, they would be untouchable.
This post was edited on 3/24/26 at 4:26 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173381 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 4:37 pm to
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• Iran does not need the ability to strike the US mainland with any weapon to cause great harm to the US

That is part of the argument against the war also. We gave them a valid reason to harm us.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
26205 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 4:58 pm to
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How do you complain “OMG how did we get here??!!”

Show me where I did that.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
26205 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 5:16 pm to
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You’re a viscous disgusting person.

So, thick?
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
61813 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 5:17 pm to
No, I don’t think you’re wrong at all.
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