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re: I Still Can't Get Past This
Posted on 8/13/22 at 7:44 am to Dday63
Posted on 8/13/22 at 7:44 am to Dday63
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Are we honestly saying the Constitution allows a scorned President to declassify a bunch of sensitive information, and then sell it to the highest bidder with no recourse
That truly makes everything else you said non-credible
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Posted on 8/13/22 at 7:44 am to oman
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oman
Stop embarrassing yourself
Posted on 8/13/22 at 8:01 am to Dday63
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But Congress is always the ultimate authority on matters, whether that makes sense to you or not. We do not have a King, and Congress is the voice of the people.
Where’d you take civics?
Posted on 8/13/22 at 8:08 am to AUstar
Follow @mrddmia on Twitter, clerks for Gorsuch, he explains it well
Posted on 8/13/22 at 8:16 am to AUstar
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They cannot contest the president. He is the final authority on these matters.
They don’t want to believe it, but it’s really that simple.
He is the president. He can declassify anything he wants by waiving his dick.
Posted on 8/13/22 at 5:18 pm to oman
I see the thought process you have,but all of the processes of declassification are under the authority of the executive branch ie: the president.
Department of energy falls under the EB. And all nuecular falls under the DOE.
Department of energy falls under the EB. And all nuecular falls under the DOE.
Posted on 8/13/22 at 5:27 pm to AUstar
Read the executive order from Obama. It tells you the exact procedure. It even breaks down different procedures for different agencies. Someone made a thread. There’s one catch.
The PRESIDENT is EXEMPT because the PRESIDENT is the one who makes the call on how the lower levels’ procedure works. I don’t know what’s so hard to understand other than brainwashing by the talking point melt on the MSM networks.
The PRESIDENT is EXEMPT because the PRESIDENT is the one who makes the call on how the lower levels’ procedure works. I don’t know what’s so hard to understand other than brainwashing by the talking point melt on the MSM networks.
Posted on 8/13/22 at 5:36 pm to TigerAttorney
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The PRESIDENT is EXEMPT because the PRESIDENT is the one who makes the call on how the lower levels’ procedure works. I don’t know what’s so hard to understand other than brainwashing by the talking point melt on the MSM networks.
Link to any law, case or executive order which specifies that the President does not have to follow procedures to declassify information.
Should be easy, since you are so sure of your interpretation.
Posted on 8/13/22 at 5:44 pm to trinidadtiger
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Well that settles it Kamala, what a word salad response. The president has the authority, a department head can "protest" but it still will be declassed,
That's the point. You have a check on an ex-President leaking sensitive info or lying about how he declassified stuff after the fact.
That's why you have procedures and protocols. Not to identify who has ultimate authority to create a new procedure or declassify, but to stop frick ups.
Posted on 8/13/22 at 5:50 pm to oman
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That's the point. You have a check on an ex-President leaking sensitive info or lying about how he declassified stuff after the fact.
Have we checked on EVERY ex president for this?
Do we really know what Jimmy Carter might still have?
Posted on 8/13/22 at 5:50 pm to AUstar
This is NOT about nuclearweaponry docs. Please stop looking at the shiny object.
Posted on 8/13/22 at 7:19 pm to KiwiHead
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Have we checked on EVERY ex president for this? Do we really know what Jimmy Carter might still have?
I'd assume all of them get some sort of form letter from the national archives.
I'm also sure none of them would intentionally hold on to any, and then whine about being prosecuted, just so they could grift their cult members.
So much conspiracy hysteria, so little time.
Posted on 8/13/22 at 7:24 pm to oman
The President is their boss you idiot.
Posted on 8/13/22 at 8:34 pm to Dday63
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Are we honestly saying the Constitution allows a scorned President to declassify a bunch of sensitive information, and then sell it to the highest bidder with no recourse?
Yes, the same Constitution that allows the President to pardon anyone he chooses convicted of a federal crime without recourse. A 1980s court case affirmed the ultimate authority to declassify material lies with the president. The details of the case are in another thread with I may find it later.
Posted on 8/13/22 at 8:52 pm to oman
My husband reminded me that when we worked at a defense contractor and had top secret clearances, our security department showed a video of Carter talking about US surveillance that was classified until he spoke about it on TV. The mere act of him talking about it was enough to declassify it.
Presidents can do that.
Others (like saya secretary of state) cannot. All others have to follow procedures
Presidents can do that.
Others (like saya secretary of state) cannot. All others have to follow procedures
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