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re: I NEVER want to hear teachers talk about pay ever again

Posted on 7/31/20 at 6:15 am to
Posted by AUauditor
Georgia
Member since Sep 2004
1664 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 6:15 am to
My daughter is starting this year as an 8th grade special needs teacher. They are starting with a hybrid class.

I am an auditor/accountant and haven't missed a day AT work since Covid started.

Life has risks - he risks are less than mine (except for dealing with 8th grade boys).
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68474 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 6:20 am to
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teachers

So are they still heroes or not?
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62022 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 6:25 am to
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There's no reason why teachers should have to do something scary like go out and get their own groceries. Why would they subject cashier's to that which they won't even subject themselves?


When are the D.C. teachers planning on lining the parking lot of Walmart with body bags?
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
19163 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 8:41 am to
Assumptions are stupid. Married to a teacher, my Mom is a teacher, and my sister is a teacher. If you are going to bitch about teachers, add these qualifiers, to distinguish the shitty teachers:
1. They belong to a union (most in Louisiana do not)
2. They are Democrats (take out high schools and inner city, and most are not)

As my wife is friends with literally everyone she has ever worked with, I can say as a quasi expert in at least St Tammany teachers, that 90% of them are red blooded Americans that just want to get back to doing what they love.
This post was edited on 7/31/20 at 8:56 am
Posted by teebro
laf
Member since Jul 2009
681 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 12:22 pm to
You have stated the case for teachers very accurately and clearly, I think the OP is right to be frustrated; but he like many others, are being fooled to believe "the teachers", like "the cops" are the "bad actors" in this public farce. Divide and conquer. it's an old strategy but it works well.
Hey OP, it's the Bloated State Department of Education and overstaffed central offices that are making these decisions.
Posted by Van Wilder
Member since Jul 2014
248 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 1:03 pm to
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But now those very same parents are being counted on to do at least 20% of the teacher's job.


Oh, the delicious irony. Many teachers pick up the slack for horrific parenting on a daily basis.
Regardless, most teachers I know want to go back to school. Those liberal loons in California do not represent your average southern teacher.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21944 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 1:19 pm to
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Those liberal loons in California do not represent your average southern teacher.

I'm in Arizona so not aware of what's going on in the south - are all the schools starting on campus this fall?
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 1:32 pm to
Yeah , 30 hours a week makes it a full time job ?
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 1:37 pm to
Yeah , your assumption is stupid.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14983 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 1:41 pm to
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Hey OP, it's the Bloated State Department of Education and overstaffed central offices that are making these decisions.


Not defending bloated central offices, but that is not the case in this situation. EBR and Orleans where headed toward reopening when teacher unions pushed back. They were quite open in their self-congratulations over pushing back the physical opening of schools.

These decisions are made at the local, not state level.
Posted by Smedium27
Bestbank
Member since Aug 2010
3519 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 1:44 pm to
You have to be a great babysitter nowadays to be a good teacher. The core of the problem, especially catholic Nola schools , is the lack of business experience and education form the principle. They hire women with a religion masters background who have no idea how to run a school. Therefor the everyday business of the school relies on parents ran school board. This can explain why some schools are better than others

Can not wait until the education system fails miserably and homeschooling and neighborhood schooling is the norm

Let's get back to the day of walking a couple miles in the Snow (Hurricane for southerns) to get to school
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
59059 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 2:03 pm to
Or they hire a person who taught for three years (MAX) and went back to get the masters in education and started working administration and hasn't set foot in a classroom in who knows how long. For the three years they DID teach, they taught honors history at a Catholic high school ... they have no idea how to deal with elementary or middle school students or (rabid) parents.

And some of the teachers that are hired ... I swear must've been on the special bus.


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