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I need help with these numbers.

Posted on 5/15/19 at 12:59 pm
Posted by Vecchio Cane
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Posted on 5/15/19 at 12:59 pm
I can find several sources which state that the percentage of rapes which result in pregnancy is widely accepted to be 5%. (NCBI, from articles in the National Institues of Health)

Then I see that there are approximately 32,000 of these pregnancies per year.
That would equate to 640,000 cases of rape per year in the US.

Yet, the highest number of rapes per year that I can find reported is 250,000 (source: RAIIN, Victims of Sexual Violence)

Even accepting the fact that not all rapes are reported, that's a huge discrepancy.

Where is the disconnect, or am I just missing something? Honest question
Posted by BamaAtl
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Posted on 5/15/19 at 1:02 pm to
Where are the numbers pulled from? It may only count pregnancies past a certain point (ruling out miscarriages etc) for the 32,000, while the 5% is a generic number regarding chance of pregnancy for unprotected sex on average in the population.

Posted by Vecchio Cane
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Posted on 5/15/19 at 1:09 pm to
The 5% was from this article:

Holmes, Melisa M.; Resnick, Heidi S.; Kilpatrick, Dean G.; Best, Connie L. (1996). "Rape-related pregnancy: Estimates and descriptive characteristics from a national sample of women". American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology
Posted by Vecchio Cane
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Posted on 5/15/19 at 1:18 pm to
"estimated 32,101 pregnancies result from rape each year."


From the American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology
Posted by Bulldogblitz
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Posted on 5/15/19 at 1:19 pm to
42 is the answer.
Posted by Hangit
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Posted on 5/15/19 at 1:20 pm to
58% of all statistics are made up.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 5/15/19 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

42 is the answer.





This is making my head hurt
Posted by BobBoucher
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Posted on 5/15/19 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

That would equate to 640,000 cases of rape per year in the US. Yet, the highest number of rapes per year that I can find reported is 250,000 (source: RAIIN, Victims of Sexual Violence) Even accepting the fact that not all rapes are reported, that's a huge discrepancy.


My guess is that their 5% number would include estimates for “all rapes”, even ones not reported.

I would also assume that rapes resulting in pregnancy are reported at a higher frequency.

Just a few ideas.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
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Posted on 5/15/19 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

My guess is that their 5% number would include estimates for “all rapes”, even ones not reported. I would also assume that rapes resulting in pregnancy are reported at a higher frequency. Just a few ideas.


Yeah, I thought that as well. But still, there's too big of a gap in reported rapes and pregnancies.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 5/15/19 at 1:41 pm to
I'd have to know the methodology. If the determination of rape is "The woman said she was raped" then the problem is that women lie about rape constantly. It's what they do.
If, OTOH, the determination of rape = the actual conviction of the perp and sentencing to prison for rape then the incidence rate of pregnancy is probably less than .01% of abortions.

The much larger issue is incest. This is not forcible rape. This is sex between girl and dad and does involve pregnancy. It does happen a LOT more than you would think. It's not discussed because it is primarily an issue with a certain 'demographic'.

Posted by Vecchio Cane
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Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 5/15/19 at 1:45 pm to
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I'd have to know the methodology. If the determination of rape is "The woman said she was raped" then the problem is that women lie about rape constantly. It's what they do. If, OTOH, the determination of rape = the actual conviction of the perp and sentencing to prison for rape then the incidence rate of pregnancy is probably less than .01% of abortions.


I had the same thoughts, and these numbers are based on reported cases of rape, from my understanding
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