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re: I like Lindsay Graham's idea to open the Government for 3 weeks

Posted on 1/13/19 at 11:09 pm to
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 11:09 pm to
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Because we can’t, as a government, afford for them to seek work elsewhere. The talent alone would be extremely difficult to replace.



Sure. You have a long way to go to sell that b.s..

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Second, the job isn’t sacred. They are subject to the same firing process as anyone else. That said, being told you have a job and could work, but aren’t being allowed to (and unpaid) because elected officials are using you as a political football is not the same as what private sector deals with.


They ARE getting paid... WITHOUT WORKING.

Their pay will come, as it has every fricking time. That is something the private sector workers don't have the luxury of.

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You can’t just replace 800k white collar engineers, scientists, and management.



Good, we probably shouldnt.
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
Member since Aug 2012
4347 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 6:55 am to
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Just sit back and do nothing. It is their constituency that suffers.They will crack. 


Yeah, but 66% are white and 49% doesn't have a college degree. So there is a significant piece that fits into Trumps base.
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 7:08 am to
Three weeks isn't going to accomplish anything that the two previous years didn't... you know that period of time that Ryan/McConnell held the congressional majority and refused to move the wall forward because they didn't want one.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
41961 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 7:11 am to
frick Lindsay let it burn
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 7:12 am to
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You can’t just replace 800k white collar engineers, scientists, and management


So...enough people to build a wall. Good.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
41961 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 7:17 am to
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You can’t just replace 800k white collar engineers, scientists, and management


So taxes go down?
Posted by BornAndRaised_LA
Springfield, VA
Member since Oct 2018
6562 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 7:38 am to
Your entire response reads as if you have never left your little corner of the south and have never met a federal employee beyond the TSA.

I’ve worked alongside the white collar side of the federal government and the assembled knowledge, experience, and talent would hurt to lose. Although members fall on both sides of the political spectrum (most federal workers I know lean right, by the way), the organizations themselves are sensitive to remaining apolitical. Their work is sometimes grabbed by whichever side disagrees with it and touted as an example of partisan influence within the government, but that’s usually spin. Great effort is made to simply execute the programs Congress directs funding to as well as possible without getting involved in the politics of it all.
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
5598 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 7:57 am to
While i have no doubt that there are very talented people not being paid right now, you are naive if your think that a significant portion of those 800K people cannot be cut. And the country will continue to run just fine.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 8:47 am to
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Your entire response reads as if you have never left your little corner of the south and have never met a federal employee beyond the TSA.




I've lived in 6 states across the country and in Japan. Try again.

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I’ve worked alongside the white collar side of the federal government and the assembled knowledge, experience, and talent would hurt to lose.


You fail to explain why all those are federal jobs. The vast majority of them should not exist on the Federal level.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116678 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 10:03 am to
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.since Nancy and Chuck said if POTUS will stop the shutdown they will negotiate in good faith.


That was for the press. They told Trump the opposite. He asked them point blank 'If we reopen the govt and have negotiations will the wall be on the table?'
They said 'NO!' That's when he walked out.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
18486 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 11:26 am to
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if she is proven to be a liar


when has this ever had a negative impact on her?
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
75014 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 11:30 am to
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