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I don’t understand the Acosta ruling
Posted on 11/24/18 at 5:21 pm
Posted on 11/24/18 at 5:21 pm
So the decision violated his right to due process according to the judge, didn’t the WH start the process by revoking his pass AFTER he assaulted a female staffer? This really required a stay?
Posted on 11/24/18 at 5:25 pm to Strannix
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I don’t understand the Acosta ruling
Thats because it's a bullshjt ruling. Under the reasoning of the ruling, anyone, who has been warned and repeatedly been disruptive, could not be banned from any public place. Another hack judge stroking his ideology.
This post was edited on 11/24/18 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 11/24/18 at 5:25 pm to Strannix
I didn't even know such was subject to due process, to what, having a privilege revoked?
Posted on 11/24/18 at 5:26 pm to Strannix
The govt requires a process for everything... it’s why we waste so much money.
Posted on 11/24/18 at 5:29 pm to Strannix
Has someone seen a copy of the written ruling? Media outlets love to blather on, but never seem to actually link to the rulings/orders themselves...
Posted on 11/24/18 at 5:32 pm to Strannix
I thought It basically boiled down to him not knowing he broke rules because there was no list of rules posted?
Don't be an a-hole could be called "The Acosta rule".
Don't be an a-hole could be called "The Acosta rule".
Posted on 11/24/18 at 5:35 pm to Hangit
Do laws not apply? Does the WH have to list everything under the sun?
Thou shalt not assault female staffers etc. etc
Thou shalt not assault female staffers etc. etc
Posted on 11/24/18 at 5:35 pm to Strannix
There was no policy in place for revoking a press members’ pass and no explanation was given when it was revoked.
This post was edited on 11/24/18 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 11/24/18 at 5:42 pm to Antonio Moss
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There was no policy in place for revoking a press members’ pass and no explanation was given when it was revoked.
and?
Posted on 11/24/18 at 6:00 pm to Antonio Moss
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There was no policy in place for revoking a press members’ pass and no explanation was given when it was revoked.
Do they need a written policy for White House press conferences saying you cannot assault female staffers?
Posted on 11/24/18 at 6:03 pm to Strannix
Come on, man. You know it, I know it. He obviously didn't assault that intern. Just leave it be. Trump enjoys the confrontation, which is why he called upon Acosta. He literally could have not called on him. Trump called on him because he thinks it's fun to get all riled up.
This post was edited on 11/24/18 at 6:05 pm
Posted on 11/24/18 at 6:05 pm to GeauxPhillies26
He put his hands on a female, enough said
Posted on 11/24/18 at 6:10 pm to Strannix
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Come on, man. You know it, I know it. He obviously didn't assault that intern
^^ This
Sound like a dem otherwise
Posted on 11/24/18 at 6:29 pm to Antonio Moss
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There was no policy in place for revoking a press members’ pass and no explanation was given when it was revoked.
So what? There was also no policy in place for granting the pass then? If it was granted with no guidelines it seems reasonable that it could be pulled at will.
Posted on 11/24/18 at 6:33 pm to GeauxPhillies26
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Come on, man. You know it, I know it. He obviously didn't assault that intern
Bullshjt. Try it yourself in public to a woman you don't know and then report back on how it went.
Posted on 11/24/18 at 6:42 pm to Strannix
Not surprising, because it makes no fricking sense.
The press pass (hard, or otherwise) is a privilege.
There is no vested property right in it.
Therefore, there's no 5th Amendment issue raised when it is revoked.
The judge is a goddamned retard.
The press pass (hard, or otherwise) is a privilege.
There is no vested property right in it.
Therefore, there's no 5th Amendment issue raised when it is revoked.
The judge is a goddamned retard.
Posted on 11/24/18 at 6:48 pm to Antonio Moss
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There was no policy in place for revoking a press members’ pass and no explanation was given when it was revoked
Umm.
Not true.
Posted on 11/24/18 at 6:49 pm to udtiger
Sigh. A hallmark of our Constitution is that if the government gives you something, it can’t arbitrarily take it away with process and an opportunity to be heard.
The White House doesn’t have to grant a single person privileges, but when it does, it can’t arbitrarily revoke them.
I disagree with the Judge’s ruling, but he found that the White House afforded no process to dispute the allegations, and the video was not blatant enough to justify no due process.
I can live with that, and so could all of the lawyers in the Office of Legal Counsel and the Solicitor General’s Office.
The White House doesn’t have to grant a single person privileges, but when it does, it can’t arbitrarily revoke them.
I disagree with the Judge’s ruling, but he found that the White House afforded no process to dispute the allegations, and the video was not blatant enough to justify no due process.
I can live with that, and so could all of the lawyers in the Office of Legal Counsel and the Solicitor General’s Office.
Posted on 11/24/18 at 6:52 pm to FalseProphet
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and the video was not blatant enough to justify no due process.
Aka: The judge just pulling nonsense out of his arse to justify a nonsense ruling.
The idea is preposterous
Posted on 11/24/18 at 6:54 pm to udtiger
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Therefore, there's no 5th Amendment issue raised when it is revoked.
The judge is a goddamned retard.
Agreed. Actually, due process is in context to a civil or criminal violation. Other than that, any privilege granted can be revoked.
Any person with the power to grant an access pass has the power to pull that pass. If a person is disruptive after being warned, that person has no right to demand to let let back in. Thats the process.
This post was edited on 11/24/18 at 6:57 pm
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