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I don’t understand the Acosta ruling

Posted on 11/24/18 at 5:21 pm
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48845 posts
Posted on 11/24/18 at 5:21 pm
So the decision violated his right to due process according to the judge, didn’t the WH start the process by revoking his pass AFTER he assaulted a female staffer? This really required a stay?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 11/24/18 at 5:25 pm to
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I don’t understand the Acosta ruling


Thats because it's a bullshjt ruling. Under the reasoning of the ruling, anyone, who has been warned and repeatedly been disruptive, could not be banned from any public place. Another hack judge stroking his ideology.
This post was edited on 11/24/18 at 5:26 pm
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
11348 posts
Posted on 11/24/18 at 5:25 pm to
I didn't even know such was subject to due process, to what, having a privilege revoked?
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27816 posts
Posted on 11/24/18 at 5:26 pm to
The govt requires a process for everything... it’s why we waste so much money.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
26984 posts
Posted on 11/24/18 at 5:29 pm to
Has someone seen a copy of the written ruling? Media outlets love to blather on, but never seem to actually link to the rulings/orders themselves...
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
39056 posts
Posted on 11/24/18 at 5:32 pm to
I thought It basically boiled down to him not knowing he broke rules because there was no list of rules posted?

Don't be an a-hole could be called "The Acosta rule".
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48845 posts
Posted on 11/24/18 at 5:35 pm to
Do laws not apply? Does the WH have to list everything under the sun?

Thou shalt not assault female staffers etc. etc
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48294 posts
Posted on 11/24/18 at 5:35 pm to
There was no policy in place for revoking a press members’ pass and no explanation was given when it was revoked.
This post was edited on 11/24/18 at 5:36 pm
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56367 posts
Posted on 11/24/18 at 5:42 pm to
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There was no policy in place for revoking a press members’ pass and no explanation was given when it was revoked.



and?
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48845 posts
Posted on 11/24/18 at 6:00 pm to
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There was no policy in place for revoking a press members’ pass and no explanation was given when it was revoked.




Do they need a written policy for White House press conferences saying you cannot assault female staffers?
Posted by GeauxPhillies26
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2014
167 posts
Posted on 11/24/18 at 6:03 pm to
Come on, man. You know it, I know it. He obviously didn't assault that intern. Just leave it be. Trump enjoys the confrontation, which is why he called upon Acosta. He literally could have not called on him. Trump called on him because he thinks it's fun to get all riled up.
This post was edited on 11/24/18 at 6:05 pm
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48845 posts
Posted on 11/24/18 at 6:05 pm to
He put his hands on a female, enough said
Posted by Tigerswillprevail
Member since Nov 2011
2865 posts
Posted on 11/24/18 at 6:10 pm to
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Come on, man. You know it, I know it. He obviously didn't assault that intern


^^ This

Sound like a dem otherwise
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 11/24/18 at 6:29 pm to
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There was no policy in place for revoking a press members’ pass and no explanation was given when it was revoked.


So what? There was also no policy in place for granting the pass then? If it was granted with no guidelines it seems reasonable that it could be pulled at will.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 11/24/18 at 6:33 pm to
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Come on, man. You know it, I know it. He obviously didn't assault that intern

Bullshjt. Try it yourself in public to a woman you don't know and then report back on how it went.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98479 posts
Posted on 11/24/18 at 6:42 pm to
Not surprising, because it makes no fricking sense.

The press pass (hard, or otherwise) is a privilege.

There is no vested property right in it.

Therefore, there's no 5th Amendment issue raised when it is revoked.

The judge is a goddamned retard.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23145 posts
Posted on 11/24/18 at 6:48 pm to
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There was no policy in place for revoking a press members’ pass and no explanation was given when it was revoked


Umm.

Not true.
Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
11706 posts
Posted on 11/24/18 at 6:49 pm to
Sigh. A hallmark of our Constitution is that if the government gives you something, it can’t arbitrarily take it away with process and an opportunity to be heard.

The White House doesn’t have to grant a single person privileges, but when it does, it can’t arbitrarily revoke them.

I disagree with the Judge’s ruling, but he found that the White House afforded no process to dispute the allegations, and the video was not blatant enough to justify no due process.

I can live with that, and so could all of the lawyers in the Office of Legal Counsel and the Solicitor General’s Office.

Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23145 posts
Posted on 11/24/18 at 6:52 pm to
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and the video was not blatant enough to justify no due process.


Aka: The judge just pulling nonsense out of his arse to justify a nonsense ruling.

The idea is preposterous
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 11/24/18 at 6:54 pm to
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Therefore, there's no 5th Amendment issue raised when it is revoked.

The judge is a goddamned retard.


Agreed. Actually, due process is in context to a civil or criminal violation. Other than that, any privilege granted can be revoked.
Any person with the power to grant an access pass has the power to pull that pass. If a person is disruptive after being warned, that person has no right to demand to let let back in. Thats the process.
This post was edited on 11/24/18 at 6:57 pm
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