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re: I don't feel bad for Zelensky or the Ukraine government at all.

Posted on 2/25/22 at 7:47 pm to
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34516 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 7:47 pm to
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Irrelevant... Zelensky allowed Donald Trump to be railroaded by the democrats and that helped lead to his defeat.

If Trump is president right now, none of this is happening.


Seems like the democrats would be interested in helping Ukraine out then, huh?
Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 7:47 pm to
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If you think Putin's reasons for invading Ukraine are 'irrelevant', then have a great day.



He is invading because he senses weakness. Weakness that wouldn't exist if Trump didn't "lose"
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 7:48 pm to
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Facts, the pussies on here in their feels over muh Ukraine will cry about it though


Ask a Yugoslavian how crap went down in their country. They will tell you it started with American backed propaganda. CIA was doing their thing. Same exact crap as Ukraine
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80210 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 7:48 pm to
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the point is he turned his back on trump and we all now reap what he sewed.


Honestly, how could he have helped Trump? There was a transcript of the call, can’t get anymore clear than that.

Him coming to defend would have only emboldened the Dems to try to go farther as a “see, it’s a coverup”
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48991 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 7:49 pm to
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I would rather not be on the side of George Soros, Hillary Clinton & Mitt Romney on any foreign policy.



When Putin actively tries to destroy western civilization, teach my children about trans sex, and pushes racism and dehumanizing white men I'll get my Jimmies rustled.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 7:49 pm to
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Pretzel logic? This is what they do dumbass. Keep gobbling up what the corrupt, fake arse media is telling you. Everyone is being played for fools, especially those Ukrainians who buy into it


So, those colonial farmers who took up rifles against the British in 1775...that was just a gigantic psych-op too? Or are you so deranged by your need to see a conspiracy behind every corner that you’ve gone off the deep end.

Civilians take up arms to defend their homeland. It’s happened since the beginning of civilization.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
25282 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 7:49 pm to
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the point is he turned his back on trump and we all now reap what he sewed.


2 things can be true at the same time yet still not have anything to do with each other.

The Dems were fed lies about Putin helping Trump beat Hillary, because Hillary helped create those lies. As did many Dems and a few GOP in the Swamp.

I get that.

But Putin isn't concerned with our politics, he's been eyeing a return of Russian greatness for a long time now. He wants to reignite the Cold War and win it.

With Biden and the Dems in the WH now, he's certainly picked the right time.
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
5645 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 7:50 pm to
The people who want us to hate Putin are a far bigger menace to our country than Putin. No getting around it.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
26034 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 7:50 pm to
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That's not what is driving this.


Chinese/Russian alliance to control the semiconductor materials and plants is what’s behind all of this. It has nothing to do with oil
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 7:50 pm to
This isn’t 1775 and the CIA has been playing this game for 70 years
Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 7:50 pm to
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Honestly, how could he have helped Trump? There was a transcript of the call, can’t get anymore clear than that.



By coming clean about what Ukraine had become.
Posted by rsbd
banks of the Mississippi
Member since Jan 2007
22177 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 7:51 pm to
I feel bad for the citizens, I never feel for any government.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80210 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 7:52 pm to
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By coming clean about what Ukraine had become.


And that would have helped Trump, how?
Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 7:53 pm to
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I feel bad for the citizens, I never feel for any government.



Their citizens are paying the price for their government corruption right now.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
25282 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 7:53 pm to
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He is invading because he senses weakness. Weakness that wouldn't exist if Trump didn't "lose"


OK, on that, we agree.

I know there is a division in that country, and I personally have no interest either way. I just don't think the citizens deserved to be shelled.

Europe has a particular history of allowing these things to get out of hand.

I think more than anything, that's what has most folks bothered. Those who know history, grew up learning about WW2 and to a lesser extent, WW1, don't want to see the sequel.
Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 7:54 pm to
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And that would have helped Trump, how?



It would have been better than utter silence.

Telling the world how Ukraine had become a money laundry and playground for the US ruling class. Yeah the media would have buried it and all but instead Zelensky let all of that continue.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80210 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 7:55 pm to
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It would have been better than utter silence. Telling the world how Ukraine had become a money laundry and playground for the US ruling class. Yeah the media would have buried it and all but instead Zelensky let all of that continue.


So wouldn’t have helped Trump, got it…
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53628 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 7:55 pm to
Didn't CIA prop him up, though? I could see him thinking, they put me here, I'm riding or dying with them.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
33144 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 7:55 pm to
Zelly is going to get his head on a pike. I feel bad for him
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 7:56 pm to
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the CIA has been playing this game for 70 years


Be that as it may regarding the CIA’s history, it’s pretty fantastical to imagine EVERY. SINGLE. GODDAMN. THING. THAT. GOES. ON. IN. THE. WORLD. is a CIA psych-op.

You’re a few steps away from watching an apartment building getting blown up by Russians and proclaiming “It’s a CIA psych-op to trick us into rooting for Ukraine.”
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