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re: I challenge any Democrat to prove me wrong on any part of Trump's successful presidency.
Posted on 8/9/24 at 1:24 pm to BamaAtl
Posted on 8/9/24 at 1:24 pm to BamaAtl
quote:but they aren't. I listed 5 replies to your opinions. It won't change your thinking because you believe Trump threatens your lively hood like the dems have indoctrinated you to believe. It's okay bro. Really. When you prove my facts wrong then I'll listen.
Facts don't require our belief, they just are.
This post was edited on 8/9/24 at 1:25 pm
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Posted on 8/9/24 at 1:26 pm to David_DJS
quote:but yet not one dem held Biden accountable for his watches failures which were more in depth than Trump during covid.
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i'd say Covid was pretty much the sole reason.
It's the reason but not an excuse. Trump should be held accountable for going full-retard on Covid response.
it's okay broThis post was edited on 8/9/24 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 8/9/24 at 1:35 pm to cwil1
, President Donald J. Trump awarded Presidential Commendations to the below individuals in recognition of their exceptional efforts on Operation Warp Speed:
General Mark Milley
Secretary Alex Azar
Jared Kushner
Dr. Moncef Slaoui
General Gustave Perna
Dr. Deborah Birx
Dr. Anthony Fauci
General Mark Milley
Secretary Alex Azar
Jared Kushner
Dr. Moncef Slaoui
General Gustave Perna
Dr. Deborah Birx
Dr. Anthony Fauci
Posted on 8/9/24 at 1:47 pm to Adam Banks
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Just showing you that not everyone would give him an A++++ like you do and have legitimate points to argue.
Yeah, without the fourth year I'd have given him an "A". As it stands, a solid "B" is my grade, though much of the scamdemic response wasn't totally on him. And I disagreed wholeheartedly with the stimulus payments and recurring unemployment booster checks. We've never recovered from that.
Give him four more years though, without the establishment causing another worldwide event, and Trump can reverse much of the damage done under Biden/Harris and at least get the ship turned towards the right direction.
And for what it's worth, during my lifetime the only president I've lived under who would receive a higher grade than Trump, was Reagan. Reagan wasn't perfect by any means but to me he is the modern gold standard. I don't think we can expect anyone better than Reagan ever again.
Posted on 8/9/24 at 2:03 pm to BET
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China virus as usual to blame Trump.
Who was President in 2020 when we had the worst of the Covid-19 pandemic? Oh, that's right...
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Virtually eliminated the unfair Estate Tax,
Lots of middle class taxpayers getting hit by something that starts in the millions, you think?
You're wrong, economists agree that the Trump Tax Cuts were for the rich mostly. You posted a lot of numbers to show that you don't realize you're wrong. That's fun.
Posted on 8/9/24 at 2:08 pm to BET
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no not opinion but facts
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Appointed a historic number of Federal judges who will interpret the Constitution as written.
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I challenge any Democrat to prove me wrong on any part of Trump's successful presidency
I’m going to guess that a democrats view of what the appropriate interpretation of the Constitution is and what constitutes success in regards to judicial appointments will be different than yours or mine.
Take for instance on the issue of abortion.
Former Supreme Court justices had a different opinion of what the appropriate constitutional interpretation was.
This post was edited on 8/9/24 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 8/9/24 at 2:13 pm to BET
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but yet not one dem held Biden accountable for his watches failures which were more in depth than Trump during covid. it's okay bro
I don't know why this is supposed to matter to me.
I don't give a frick what Dems do or say about anyone, let alone the dementia-riddled pedo.
Trump fricked up big time on Covid response and it's something we are going to be dealing with (economically) for another decade, maybe more.
That doesn't mean he's not the only choice this November for anybody with an IQ better than room temp.
Posted on 8/9/24 at 2:14 pm to Adam Banks
How about we get the state out of abortion? And let the choice be in the hands of the people?
Posted on 8/9/24 at 2:18 pm to BamaAtl
quote:and if you care about the rich people money, this is how I know your grasping.
economists agree that the Trump Tax Cuts were for the rich mostly
quote:reaching again.
Who was President in 2020 when we had the worst of the Covid-19 pandemic? Oh, that's right...
this si what yall do. Blame covid on Trump when literally no other president could have done anything more than he got done in the amount of time he had. I could ait here and use your logic and order of thinking and say Biden had more people die on his watch and did nothing about it. He's a mirderer yafa yada. Any smart person knows that Biden couldn't do a dam thing about it to stop it either. Which, begs the question: what's your iq? Posted on 8/9/24 at 2:20 pm to BET
If Covid didn't happen this thread wouldn't even have a reply. Going just off Covid response I think he messed up by agreeing to a temporary shutdown. Dems like to talk about Trump signing the Covid relief bill but it was a D congress that pushed it through, they always ignore that. He shouldn't have signed it but he'd have for sure not come close in the election if he didn't. Politicians forced people out of work for over a year, people needed some relief.
I thought overall his Covid response was fine, politicians can't stop viruses, glad we all learned that now. 2017, 18, 19 he was fantastic. Much better to minorities, all Americans, jobs, economy, environment, criminal justice reform, tougher on the border, all good.
I thought overall his Covid response was fine, politicians can't stop viruses, glad we all learned that now. 2017, 18, 19 he was fantastic. Much better to minorities, all Americans, jobs, economy, environment, criminal justice reform, tougher on the border, all good.
Posted on 8/9/24 at 2:20 pm to BamaAtl
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Lots of middle class taxpayers getting hit by something that starts in the millions, you think? You're wrong, economists agree that the Trump Tax Cuts were for the rich mostly.
Meh, I got an extra $80 a month off of it. I'm middle class as hell, I appreciated it.
Posted on 8/9/24 at 2:26 pm to David_DJS
quote:wrong again. How can you by design expect anyone to have a permanent solution in less than a year when covid hit ?Hospitals were lying at an astonishing rate about the deaths of people saying they had covid in order to recieve billions of dollars across america. No one was perfect but name another country who did better? No one. Again I can sit here and blame Biden for many more deaths and disfunction under his watch but I'm not stupid enough to believe Biden could do a darn thing either. Again read in a previous reply of the covid intervention that Trump's staff did for us. That supposed to go un accepted? By dem standards of course, yes
Trump fricked up big time on Covid response
his response was about as good as possible under the circumstances and during an election year. I'd say he handled it best he knew how like anyone else. The fact that dems actually blame Trump for covid is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
This post was edited on 8/9/24 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 8/9/24 at 2:26 pm to Mushroom1968
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Dems like to talk about Trump signing the Covid relief bill but it was a D congress that pushed it through, they always ignore that. He shouldn't have signed it but he'd have for sure not come close in the election if he didn't.
He didn't just sign a Dem bill.
He championed all the spending, to the point he lobbied Pelosi to spend more than she was proposing. He went so far as to lobby Kentucky Republicans to primary Thomas Massie because he didn't support all the spending.
Trump made a really shitty political calculation that his chances in November were best if he went all in on Covid response. He though it would get him good (or at least decent) press, but he should have learned by then that would never happen.
Posted on 8/9/24 at 2:30 pm to TDTOM
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The last year of his Presidency the economy was shut down to the point he had to give massive handouts. Did Trump shut it down, or was it the Governors?
Trump and his task force gave the governors all the cover they needed to shut things down and keep it shut down. The Feds definitely pushed it in the beginning and his failure to reign in Fauci gave people like Gavin cover to keep things shut down.
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Our major cities were literally on fire the last year of his Presidency Again, is this the job of the President or local authorities?
Well the OP claimed that Trump made things safer. So you give him credit for local safety but no blame with local riots?
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His handouts started the runaway inflation we see today. If people are forced to stop working because the states shut them down how are they supposed to live?
Once again. The Fed’s messaging and fed handouts perpetuated the shut downs. In fact the handouts were tacit approval of continued shutdowns
Posted on 8/9/24 at 2:30 pm to David_DJS
Well, people couldn't work, I disagreed with shutdowns period, you don't just force businesses to shut down but I digress. I agree it was way too much in the Covid relief bill. If we didn't have shutdowns, mostly pushed by Ds, for most of 2020, it wouldn't have been needed at all. RINOS are guilty also.
Posted on 8/9/24 at 2:30 pm to BET
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How can you by design expect anyone to have a permanent solution in less than a year when covid hit ?
Hospitals were lying at an astonishing rate about the deaths of people saying they had covid in order to recieve billions of dollars across america.
You answered your own question.
The lying was coming from his own administration, right? All the bullshite the CDC trotted out, that happened under his watch. The agency was run by his appointees.
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I'd say he handled it best he knew how like anyone else.
First, he wasn't just anyone else. He was the president, and could have made a differnce.
Second, you're wrong - it's revisionist history to suggest that everybody was down with what the government/big med was doing about Covid.
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The fact that dems actually blame Trump for covid is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
Are you 12 years old?
Name something, literally anything that Dems have not blamed Trump for. FFS they blamed him for the jobs report last week.
Posted on 8/9/24 at 2:32 pm to Mushroom1968
quote:totally agree. His policies and laws passed for the country has gone unnoticed because the mass media and leftwing govt has masked it to attempt to get the dumb people to believe the rat infested deep state is better
Covid didn't happen this thread wouldn't even have a reply.
By design
Right:less govt regulation
Left:more govt regulation
Should be a no brainer for all voters.
This post was edited on 8/9/24 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 8/9/24 at 2:32 pm to Mushroom1968
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Well, people couldn't work
They could have if Trump hadn't taken the knee on Covid.
How long do you think shutdowns in any state would have lasted if the costs were borne solely by that state? Maybe two days?
Posted on 8/9/24 at 2:32 pm to Adam Banks
I just hate fans who try and throw broad/vague themes at us as evidenced fact when many of them can be argued in multiple directions.
I think you got it right. Good president for 3 years. Mediocre to bad president for one year. I think a lot of Trump's high profile moves to go against conventional wisdom failed to really pay off, but I don't really think many of them truly hurt us. See, North Korea for example.
I think you got it right. Good president for 3 years. Mediocre to bad president for one year. I think a lot of Trump's high profile moves to go against conventional wisdom failed to really pay off, but I don't really think many of them truly hurt us. See, North Korea for example.
Posted on 8/9/24 at 2:34 pm to Adam Banks
I say all that I said above to say. Trump could have done better regarding Covid, but I don't think anyone else would have done any better. Covid really fractured everyone politically. I think there were politicians actively working against Trump to hurt him, Trump getting in his own way to hurt himself, and the media fanning the flames. I also think we've never seen anything like that before. Spanish flu didn't have the amount of attention and hysteria of course with not as much availability in media, plus less populated. I don't think anyone truly knew what to do. Best thing would have been to continue running the country, be open about all the information, and let people choose to live how they were living prior to Covid.
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