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re: “I believe that white progressives cause the most daily damage to people of color..."

Posted on 7/23/18 at 6:33 pm to
Posted by EyeTwentyNole
Member since Mar 2015
4199 posts
Posted on 7/23/18 at 6:33 pm to
I skimmed the article and my only opinion is that she used more quotation marks than any writer in history.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/23/18 at 6:33 pm to
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To be perceived as an individual, to not be associated with anything negative because of your skin color, she notes, is a privilege largely afforded to white people;


That pretty much voids anything else she has to say
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138933 posts
Posted on 7/23/18 at 6:35 pm to
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That pretty much voids anything else she has to say

I stereotype white people like a mother fricker
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 7/23/18 at 6:40 pm to
Not sure why you're being downvoted to shite when the article holds somewhat of an opinion similar to that of the board- that progressive coddling hinders racial progress rather than helps it.

Anyway, the article is alot of sociological bullshite with made-up terms but her point that whites mostly avoid being lumped together by race with their criminal underlings whereas blacks do not (see any "culcha" thread on the OT) is true.

However, she chooses to ignore some reasons. Blacks vote monolithically, and as such are treated monolithically. Perhaps another sin of the white progressive. Also, blacks are disproportionately grouped in with their criminal underbelly because it's somewhat of a stereotype: blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crime.

It's worth discussing why that is, but that doesn't take away from that fact. It also doesn't justify it. No one should be assumed to be of a certain "disposition" because of their race, at least not in America.
This post was edited on 7/23/18 at 6:40 pm
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 7/23/18 at 6:46 pm to
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I would assume everyone would stereotype this white dude as a hipster douchebag



I dunno, he could be looking at power tool ads
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34286 posts
Posted on 7/23/18 at 6:48 pm to
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My dad told me:

If you look for racists- you can find them anywhere. If you look for people of goodwill- you will find them everywhere. Which you look for is a personal DECISION.


I never said that once. You've been misquoting me all your life**





































** Just seeing if there are any Maverick movie buffs on the PT?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/23/18 at 6:53 pm to
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Not sure why you're being downvoted to shite when the article holds somewhat of an opinion similar to that of the board- that progressive coddling hinders racial progress rather than helps it.


Very commendable but the author basically committed the same sins she's accusing others of doing. It's my opinion everyone is being judged by our peers and not our individuality.

White progressives are the driving force in the splintering of America into factions however.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 7/23/18 at 6:55 pm to
She absolutely did, or at least the perosn the article is about did.

An issue with the discussion is, from a white person, it's almost impossible to initiate any frame point with sounding like a colossal prick.
Posted by canyon
MM23
Member since Dec 2003
22204 posts
Posted on 7/23/18 at 6:55 pm to
And I believe BSTx causes more daily damage than white progressives. To POCs, of course.
Posted by Arbengal
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
3496 posts
Posted on 7/23/18 at 7:20 pm to
BHP your dad must have been a wise and caring man. You learned well from him. He would be proud of you. You have your head screwed on straight sir! I always enjoy reading your posts!!
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68835 posts
Posted on 7/23/18 at 7:22 pm to
You do realize that the author is not on your side, right?
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
53738 posts
Posted on 7/23/18 at 7:25 pm to
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and rapists in the United States are white


She doesn’t understand statistics
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 7/23/18 at 7:28 pm to
Weve been saying this about white progressives for years. They have been preaching to blacks that they are helpless victims for years. Those same people know 0 normal black people.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63500 posts
Posted on 7/23/18 at 7:43 pm to
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it is rare to see a white man on the street reduced to a stereotype.


You mean like dis? Litigious Ellen Pao the Sexist via Twitter
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63500 posts
Posted on 7/23/18 at 7:46 pm to
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That pretty much voids anything else she has to say

It is hilarious she uses a generalized stereotype to say that the group she’s generalizing isn’t generalized.

Though, seriously doubt she, nor most of the leftist acolytes able to see the logic trap here.
Posted by Bunsbert Montcroff
Boise ID
Member since Jan 2008
5770 posts
Posted on 7/23/18 at 7:46 pm to
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Not sure why you're being downvoted to shite when the article holds somewhat of an opinion similar to that of the board- that progressive coddling hinders racial progress rather than helps it.

You are on the ball here, but I think missing a major point: the intent behind diangelo's book seems to be something like "self-help for white progressives to recognize their unconscious racial bias and privilege". Your resident politard is not interested in that kind of racial reflection.
Posted by themunch
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71987 posts
Posted on 7/23/18 at 8:02 pm to
I would like your dad.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/23/18 at 8:06 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/27/23 at 3:57 am
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53474 posts
Posted on 7/23/18 at 8:07 pm to
I’ve tried for years for him to answer that very question.


I’ve all but given up hope.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/23/18 at 8:07 pm to
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It is hilarious she uses a generalized stereotype to say that the group she’s generalizing isn’t generalized.


Yep.
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