re: humorous look at Republican plans to replace ACA (NSFW)

Medical schools are not the limiting factor in MDs. Residencies are. The AMA controls that. Do research before making suggestions.

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See I view your ilk as a bunch of uneducated rednecks who denounce everything not Pro Trump as fake news.

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Everyone here does not do that for everything "not Pro Trump". Drama.

Gotta run to my son's baseball game.

I won't be able to address many and none thoroughly.

1- who's going to pay for universal healthcare
2- what happens to those caught in the middle with higher taxes already living pay check to pay check
3- provider disruption
4- medical schools
5- massive increase in the size of the government depending on how socialist you really want to go. The largest employer in the UK is the NHS.

There are more. Think about the negatives and just not the positives. Gotta run. GAme time.

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You gonna promise to never ask for another fed gov program to expand again?

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I haven't asked for any. You ok with not expanding the military budget ever again? That's a big fedgov program.

I'm all for entitlement reform. SS should be means tested.

Lots of other wasteful fedgov spending.

I'm no liberal. Voted straight R in Presidential elections since 92. There's just no viable solution that's "free market". They've been working on it for 8 years now and basically have nothing that the electorate is going to accept.

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Gotta run to my son's baseball game. I won't be able to address many and none thoroughly. 1- who's going to pay for universal healthcare 2- what happens to those caught in the middle with higher taxes already living pay check to pay check 3- provider disruption 4- medical schools 5- massive increase in the size of the government depending on how socialist you really want to go. The largest employer in the UK is the NHS. There are more. Think about the negatives and just not the positives. Gotta run. GAme time.

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1: between you and your employer, you're probably paying $25000/yr for a family plan... before you can even access the benefits. Why not pay that as taxes and have access to healcare. Get something for your money.

2: see point one. You'd not be paying for insurance, so you'd be paying about the same amount

3: providers won't have much choice but to provide or start a subscription service for those who want Cadillac care above what single payer provides

4: What about medical schools? It's still going to be a high income profession. Likely, they'd be a component where you could trade some service after school for the cost of getting a medical degree.

5:don't want socialized medicine. Just "Medicare for all" where the gov uses its buying power to negotiate rates for medicine and medical care instead of smaller companies doing it with less power.


Unless you're a top 2,percenter, you're being sold a bill of goods that this system is better for you.

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Free markets in health insurance work great for people with cancer or genetic disease that they had no fault in coming down with.

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Like I said. Fake internet Republican.

I'm sure that's not what I say or do. Thanks for your interest in our program.

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End of the day, we're just delaying the inevitable. There will be single payer in the US inside of 10 years. Down vote away, but it's coming.

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I agree, unless we are willing to turn away people who have no coverage and can't afford to pay their bills. Since we take care of those people regardless, and we do it in the most expensive way possible, we should just do what you said. Cover peoples basic needs and let everyone purchase private sector supplemental plans (either by paying for it themselves or through their employer).

I've started a couple of threads on this. I think it's inevitable. What the liberals are proposing is that everybody gets the same Cadillac coverage, and that is not sustainable, so we'll eventually have rationing. A better model to me is the two-tier model where everyone gets the basic care, and you can use supplemental plans to give yourself access to the doctor of your choice, the hospital of your choice, private hospital rooms, brand name drugs, experimental treatments, etc...

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I've started a couple of threads on this. I think it's inevitable. What the liberals are proposing is that everybody gets the same Cadillac coverage, and that is not sustainable, so we'll eventually have rationing. A better model to me is the two-tier model where everyone gets the basic care, and you can use supplemental plans to give yourself access to the doctor of your choice, the hospital of your choice, private hospital rooms, brand name drugs, experimental treatments, etc...

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good idea.

we already have rationing. a plan covers what it covers. it doesnt cover what it does not cover. that's a kind of rationing controlled by what you pay for the plan, and whether you are a good shopper and/or whether your HR dept is a good shopper.

I have medicare too, primary. what's great about medicare is the stupendous deep cut in what is billed vs what medicare will pay.
for surgeries, the difference is huge.
a private person just pays the big number.