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Hugo Chavez and Nelson Mandela - international heroes of the 20th century
Posted on 3/16/19 at 6:40 pm
Posted on 3/16/19 at 6:40 pm
I remember first learning of them in 3rd grade in 2000- our class's World History textbook had a "contemporary era" section and characterized both as maven stalwarts of positive transformity, divine prophets to be admired.
They have always been Marxist agitators with organizational competence; the fruits of their labors- death, starvation, anarchy-are just beginning to bloom after a couple of decades and the yield is as was always expected.
I pondered whether textbooks might be updated to inform students of this development, but then I realized the sad truth that the programming might be irreversible- many generations of mentally ill Leftists will die believing it to be a matter of history that these two men - the cultural revolutions they spearheaded - are admirable, wise, heroes of progress.
Hugo Chavez and Nelson Mandela have been disassociated from contemporary disasters in South Africa and Venezuala.
Do either of them get blame for the unrest they primed their people for?
They have always been Marxist agitators with organizational competence; the fruits of their labors- death, starvation, anarchy-are just beginning to bloom after a couple of decades and the yield is as was always expected.
I pondered whether textbooks might be updated to inform students of this development, but then I realized the sad truth that the programming might be irreversible- many generations of mentally ill Leftists will die believing it to be a matter of history that these two men - the cultural revolutions they spearheaded - are admirable, wise, heroes of progress.
Hugo Chavez and Nelson Mandela have been disassociated from contemporary disasters in South Africa and Venezuala.
Do either of them get blame for the unrest they primed their people for?
This post was edited on 3/16/19 at 7:01 pm
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Posted on 3/16/19 at 6:44 pm to ManBearTiger
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I remember first learning of them in 3rd grade in 2000- our class's World History textbook had a "contemporary era" section and characterized both as admirables heroes to be admired
This is what 3rd graders do:
This post was edited on 3/16/19 at 6:48 pm
Posted on 3/16/19 at 6:55 pm to bmy
Maybe so- today, most primary school teachers are mentally ill and/or barely literate and the contemporary texts are written and edited in accordance with that.
A lot has changed with education in 20 years.
A lot has changed with education in 20 years.
This post was edited on 3/16/19 at 6:57 pm
Posted on 3/16/19 at 6:56 pm to bmy
I Think Mandela was an honorable man.
I think he was naïve to believe the underclass, once they got power would not use it to destroy the white minority.
I think he was naïve to believe the underclass, once they got power would not use it to destroy the white minority.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 6:58 pm to Tiger Roux
Mandela threw his hat in with a bloodlust movement.
It was sated as long as he was alive.
He knew who they were.
It was sated as long as he was alive.
He knew who they were.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 7:15 pm to bmy
I was in high school from 84-88. We were taught that communism and socialism were our enemies. That socialism led to the NAZI”s in Germany and to communism in the USSR. It had only been 40 years since ww2. I had teachers that grew up in WW2 and who’s fathers, brothers or husbands fought in ww2.
Our history books were nothing like today’s. We were taught that Europeans colonized the Americas to spread Christianity and save the savages by bringing them to Christ.
Today kids are taught to hate western civilization, Christianity and America itself.
I think Jews that hate what Christian Germany did to them along with Marxist atheist took over academia and played the long game. They brainwashed the last 2 generations to be the Marxist shite democrats they are today.
Our history books were nothing like today’s. We were taught that Europeans colonized the Americas to spread Christianity and save the savages by bringing them to Christ.
Today kids are taught to hate western civilization, Christianity and America itself.
I think Jews that hate what Christian Germany did to them along with Marxist atheist took over academia and played the long game. They brainwashed the last 2 generations to be the Marxist shite democrats they are today.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 7:21 pm to Tiger Roux
I went to Robben Island last year. The jailer who friended him still lives on the island. You can just go say hey to him while on the tour.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 7:21 pm to ManBearTiger
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Hugo Chavez and Nelson Mandela have been disassociated from contemporary disasters in South Africa and Venezuala.
Chavez was just a ruthless dictator. There was nothing remarkable about his rule. The one difference was that Venezuela had oil to fund his country.
Mandela was a live martyr and his release from prison was due to international pressure and it brought about the end of Apartheid in RSA. He will always be remembered for that. Apartheid was not slavery but it was forced racial division and extremely oppressive to the Black Africans. Whatever RSA or Mandela did after that was regardless of the end of Apartheid...
This post was edited on 3/16/19 at 7:22 pm
Posted on 3/16/19 at 7:22 pm to ManBearTiger
Mandela joined whatever group could get his movement progressed. If it meant being a communist one year and a capitalist the next he did it.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 7:23 pm to ManBearTiger
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Mandela threw his hat in with a bloodlust movement.
Mandela only took up arms after the Sharpsville massacre, in which a bunch of people died and 18,000 people or so were arrested. Before then he was fundamentally committed to peaceful negotiation with the government. It's rare that anyone ever criticizes the National Party, who put themselves in an untenable position, and only criticizes Mandela.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 7:55 pm to crazy4lsu
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Before then he was fundamentally committed to peaceful negotiation with the government
His wife wasn't.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 8:53 pm to ManBearTiger
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I remember first learning of them in 3rd grade in 2000- our class's World History textbook had a "contemporary era" section and characterized both as maven stalwarts of positive transformity, divine prophets to be admired.
Things that didn’t happen for $1,000, Alex.
This post was edited on 3/16/19 at 10:59 pm
Posted on 3/16/19 at 10:59 pm to ManBearTiger
Bull shite you don’t even learn to read until like 5th grade
Posted on 3/16/19 at 11:19 pm to OldmanBeasley
quote:Maybe you didn't
Bull shite you don’t even learn to read until like 5th grade
Posted on 3/16/19 at 11:22 pm to Wtxtiger
colonialists also brought engineering, medicine and education and in some cases disease unfortunately
Posted on 3/16/19 at 11:42 pm to Roaad
I’d learned in 3rd but I was in gifted, we can’t all be as blessed as me
Posted on 3/17/19 at 12:35 am to ManBearTiger
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Do either of them get blame for the unrest they primed their people for?
The problem is the left canonizes those folks, particularly Mandela. No one on that side is going to weep when the genocide is complete in SA. When a country that not so long ago exported food is starving in the near future, they will blame whitey.
Rinse repeat.
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