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re: How quickly would school shootings stop if...
Posted on 3/28/23 at 7:18 am to burger bearcat
Posted on 3/28/23 at 7:18 am to burger bearcat
They would likely stop if we allowed one heavily armed dad volunteer each day
But that wouldn’t stop fricked up people from seeking attention
But that wouldn’t stop fricked up people from seeking attention
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Posted on 3/28/23 at 7:23 am to blafayette
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Funny how how people think that public executions don’t work. How many school shootings has Russia or North Korea had?
CIA access there is restricted.
Posted on 3/28/23 at 7:37 am to burger bearcat
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If the murderers were caught and brought to the town square, and they were hanged, drawn, and quartered in front of the public.
We wouldn't have to debate about gun control anymore because it wouldn't be happening. If we were serious about stopping this stuff, and we were a serious country, we would simply make it stop.
Everything we find important and consider precious in this country is diligently protected by men with guns. For our children we create "gun free" zones...
Posted on 3/28/23 at 7:54 am to Paddyshack
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Or we could just
- end "gun free zones"
- supply teachers/administrators/on-campus officers with proper protections
- implement common sense measures such as locking doors
The answer is abundantly clear and we all know what it is but no one will say it out loud...
Arm every man, woman and child in the US. Background checks are a sham and any regulation at all on who can and can not have a gun is wrought with possible second amendment violations. We all know that the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is for a good guy with a gun to be present. Its a numbers game...nothing that is acceptable can be done to limit access to guns therefore the logical answer is to eliminate the ill advised regulations in place now, which do not work by any measure, and encourage as many men, women and children to carry 24-7 as are willing to do so.
Step two is to censor the press and ensure that when someone does indeed commit a heinous crime involving a firearm they are not handed their 15 minutes of fame. There is no legitimate need for anyone not directly involved as a victim of a crime and those whose job it is to investigate a crime to have knowledge of a crime having been committed. The press is culpable...they should be held accountable for making celebrities out of the lunatic.
I haven't thought about public execution but why not? Mandatory attendance for any man, woman or child within 10 miles of the public square....like they do in Muslim countries. And not a pretty execution like hanging or firing squad but one that takes hours and causes unimaginable pain. This was common in medieval times and folks thought long and hard before being a criminal. There is much to be admired about sharia law and medieval thinking on crime and punishment. The accused should also have no trial nor any representation at all. If there is a gun involved, they are guilty and dead within 24 hours.
These are modest proposals that anyone in the proper frame of mind should support....there is no acceptable way to prevent the lunatics among us from acquiring a firearm. The press is culpable in heinous crimes by making celebrities out of criminals. The best deterrent to crime ever devised is punishing the criminal after the fact in a manner that makes others hesitant to commit a crime. A modest proposal indeed...
Posted on 3/28/23 at 7:56 am to ChEgrad
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There is value in shaming people publicly and we need to make people feel ashamed of their bad behavior. I think putting people in the stocks in the public square was not without value - if done properly. I won’t necessarily advocate for the death penalty, but a non-public death penalty is useless.
That said, most shooters are killed or kill themselves it seems, so no opportunity for public shaming and punishment.
Amen brother. The constitution only applies to those of us who are not going to commit a crime. Criminals should not have any rights...anything the state deems appropriate for someone accused of a crime is acceptable.
Posted on 3/28/23 at 7:59 am to burger bearcat
School shootings would end if schools were heavily armed and perpetrators were quickly dispatched before inflicting carnage and their lifeless corpses riddled with bullet holes were the only thing broadcast on the news.
These psychos would simply move on to another “gun-free” zone.
These psychos would simply move on to another “gun-free” zone.
Posted on 3/28/23 at 7:59 am to TurkeyBaconLeg
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The thing about mass shootings is that most of the time, the shooter is killed. They typically WANT to die.
So, the town square thing wont work very well stopping someone that is usually killed and/or wants to die.
Simple soultion....round up their family and friends and execute some of them in the town square. Folks would rat their lunatic friends and family out if we did that. There would be none of this..."we should have seen it coming...he was kind of weird" crap. Again, this was once common in many orderly societies which did not have these kinds of issues. There is wisdom in ancient ideas....
Posted on 3/28/23 at 8:02 am to LemmyLives
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Don't be a mealy mouthed wuss.
Arm nearly everyone in the school.
And never, ever, use the term "common sense" in relation to guns, or our rights every again, because like the word "reform" (ie immigration reform) it means whatever the politician wants it to mean. To me common sense means start boys on .45ACP and girls on 9MM. To your wife, that means I can't leave the gun I lost in the great boating accident in my truck when I go to help for a science lab.
Arm every man, woman and child in the nation, period. The only acceptable means to deter gun violence is the presence of more guns in the hands of more people. Too many people in this country are not armed at all times. That is the problem obviously...more guns among more people the safer we all are.
Posted on 3/28/23 at 8:06 am to burger bearcat
Wouldn't stop anything. Honestly them getting caught alive and giving them a stage like that would give them a chance to make more of a show.
The only way to stop this is to have a complete cultural and societal shift. US culture has devalued life, become obsessed with consumerism, and turned away from God. The US holds athletes, actors, singers, and other entertainers at a higher esteem than teachers, preachers, firemen, military personnel, policemen, and any other community servants.
The only way to stop this is to have a complete cultural and societal shift. US culture has devalued life, become obsessed with consumerism, and turned away from God. The US holds athletes, actors, singers, and other entertainers at a higher esteem than teachers, preachers, firemen, military personnel, policemen, and any other community servants.
Posted on 3/28/23 at 8:11 am to martiansgohome
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School shootings would end if schools were heavily armed and perpetrators were quickly dispatched before inflicting carnage and their lifeless corpses riddled with bullet holes were the only thing broadcast on the news.
These psychos would simply move on to another “gun-free” zone.
Arm every man, woman and child in the nation. There would be no gun free zones which are obviously the problem. The more guns present in the hands of more people the better. It is the only acceptable solution....any regulation aimed at controlling guns is unacceptable. The second amendment is the only amendment which is sacred...all others only apply to those who are not criminals. The second amendment should have no restrictions on who can have a gun and where they have a gun. Merely a modest proposal...
Posted on 3/28/23 at 9:10 am to AwgustaDawg
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There would be no gun free zones which are obviously the problem.
Amen. A start would be to simply do away with counter productive concealed carry laws that prevent licensed permit holders investigated and deemed safe by the state to carry on public school grounds. My kids private school has many ex-military and police parents on campus carrying throughout the day as we volunteer. The public school across the street. Well they have some SERIOUS “gun-free zone” signs. Where would you rather your kids be?
Posted on 3/28/23 at 9:31 am to the808bass
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What if news organizations did that collectively in the best interests of society?
That would be fine
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Not that you give a frick. You little fricking bitch arse commie.
I actually Give a frick about my kid not being shot at school. And I put That over your fantasies of playing Red Dawn or gunslinger.
Posted on 3/28/23 at 9:34 am to burger bearcat
i've become pro public execution in the last year. show everyone happens when you commit heinous acts.
Posted on 3/28/23 at 9:40 am to SammyTiger
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I actually Give a frick about my kid not being shot at school. And I put That over your fantasies of playing Red Dawn or gunslinger.
Why don't you go on record about how you would want your child protected at school.
Posted on 3/28/23 at 10:11 am to idlewatcher
Locks and not selling people guns.
Or maybe I can Hope the cops that respond to the shooting are like Nashville PD and not the Uvalde police.
And then I can Hope my kid is lucky enough not to be one of the ones shot before the cops or the school resource officer makes it there arrive.
Maybe I can Hope the teacher a good enough shot that there are no kids hit in the crossfire. There have never been civilian casualties in shootouts of course.
At this point the only argument for availability of guns is that they’re already out there so you can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube. But to continue that metaphor currently we continuously squeeze toothpaste out of the tube and aren’t even trying to clean it up.
Or maybe I can Hope the cops that respond to the shooting are like Nashville PD and not the Uvalde police.
And then I can Hope my kid is lucky enough not to be one of the ones shot before the cops or the school resource officer makes it there arrive.
Maybe I can Hope the teacher a good enough shot that there are no kids hit in the crossfire. There have never been civilian casualties in shootouts of course.
At this point the only argument for availability of guns is that they’re already out there so you can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube. But to continue that metaphor currently we continuously squeeze toothpaste out of the tube and aren’t even trying to clean it up.
This post was edited on 3/28/23 at 10:31 am
Posted on 3/28/23 at 10:39 am to SammyTiger
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At this point the only argument for availability of guns is that they’re already out there so you can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube. But to continue that metaphor currently we continuously squeeze toothpaste out of the tube and aren’t even trying to clean it up.
The consensus is that the toothpaste being out of the tube is a positive thing, anything other than the toothpaste being out of the tube is an egregious attack on the second amendment. A good 10-15% of the population of this nation share this opinion. Since the toothpaste is out, can't be put back in and any regulation slowing down the flow of toothpaste is an egregious attack on the second amendment the only logical solution is to coat every man, woman and child with toothpaste.
Posted on 3/28/23 at 10:41 am to burger bearcat
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How quickly would school shootings stop if...
we eliminated gun free zones
Posted on 3/28/23 at 10:44 am to idlewatcher
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Why don't you go on record about how you would want your child protected at school.
I will go on record and state unequivocally how I want my kid and grandkid protected. Arm them. I have a 6 year old grand daughter. She is perfectly capable of pulling a pistol out of her backpack and blasting away. I have seen to it that she knows how to fire a gun. She is not a criminal and has no record of mental illness. She should be allowed to carry a weapon to school. Her lack of a criminal record or mental illness has no bearing on this however, the only way for the state to know this is through a real background check and a database of such issues which would violate the second amendment in an unacceptable manner. Infants in day care should be armed. Motor control is not mentioned in the constitution any more than criminal history or mental stability vis a vis the second amendment...Arm everyone. A modest proposal...
Posted on 3/28/23 at 10:46 am to Wtodd
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we eliminated gun free zones
Schools would still be gun free for the majority of the people in the building because of ill advised regulations which prohibit minors from carrying weapons. Gun free zones is only part of the equation...the lack of guns is the root cause. Too few guns in too few hands...a modest proposal. Arm everyone with no regard to criminal history, mental stability, age....nothing should come between an American and their firearm....
Posted on 3/28/23 at 10:47 am to Veritas
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It will continue to happen no matter what, just a matter of how severe.
you go to jail and you are fed and watch tv and play cards.
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