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re: How much more do you need to see that the GOPE is NOT on your side and help the dems?

Posted on 3/22/24 at 7:23 pm to
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
11174 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 7:23 pm to
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Good luck getting support.

You need will need every one of these "GOPe" at times over the next few years, they'll not be there and you'll wonder why.


They vote with Democrats all the time. No one needs them. What's needed is to get them out of Congress. It's like you live in a fantasy world and think that magically one day they'll all just start doing the right thing. As much as you rail against Trump, you commit the same sin.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260630 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 7:24 pm to
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They vote with Democrats all the time. No one needs them.

Thats how you get support for legislation right there.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48389 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 7:25 pm to
Roger. You’re a tax the rich dem. We don’t want you.
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
21334 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 7:25 pm to
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they are not on the CITIZEN's side.


Yes, shutting down the US government is being on the citizens side
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
1114 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 7:27 pm to
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But don't establishment Republicans bitch about the open border, too?


Bitching and acting are 2 very different things.

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Name the Republicans that advocate for an open border.


Paul Ryan did and still does. Mitch advocates for immigration to fill jobs. Mitch McConnell pushed Senate Republicans to pass a bipartisan immigration.

Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
1114 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 7:28 pm to
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Well, you have about 7 months or so. good luck




No. I have the rest of my life.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
1114 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 7:29 pm to
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They vote with Democrats all the time. No one needs them. What's needed is to get them out of Congress. It's like you live in a fantasy world and think that magically one day they'll all just start doing the right thing. As much as you rail against Trump, you commit the same sin.


There is noway we are to the point we are right now with out the GOPE marching right along with them making concession after concession.


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260630 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 7:29 pm to
Out of frustration, yall just want to destroy.

If you had a huge majority, that would make more sense. But like a terrible chemo drug, I think yall are bad for the host.
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
4330 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 7:30 pm to
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Mitch advocates for immigration to fill jobs


Bad when Mitch does this.

Is it good when someone else does it?

'We need people': Donald Trump says he wants to see more legal immigration in U.S.

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“I need people coming in because we need people to run the factories and plants and companies that are moving back in,” he told a group of reporters from regional newspapers. “We need people.”
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
1114 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 7:31 pm to
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Out of frustration, yall just want to destroy.


No, I want them replaced by people who want the USA Citizens put first. This isn't that hard to grasp.


Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17916 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 7:31 pm to
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Bitching and acting are 2 very different things.

That's my point. You're a big Trump fan so you see him being obstructed by other Republicans in getting the wall built, but tell me - did Trump lobby to have recalcitrant Republicans in the House (on the wall) primaried because they didn't back funding the wall the way he did Thomas Massie because Massie objected to spending trillions on Democrat causes in 2020?

Why is that?

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Mitch McConnell pushed Senate Republicans to pass a bipartisan immigration.

Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) told The Hill in an interview that he sees the failure of the Biden administration to curb the flow of migrants across the southern border as a “huge issue,” and he thinks it will take center stage in the presidential campaign.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260630 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 7:32 pm to
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No, I want them replaced by people who want the USA Citizens put first.

When?

Elections coming up here this year.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
1114 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 7:34 pm to
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Bad when Mitch does this.

Is it good when someone else does it?



Yes because of the plan and method of choice.

From your own link:

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Trump's administration also has moved to cut legal immigration. It has granted fewer visas, approved fewer refugees, ordered the removal of hundreds of thousands of legal residents whose home countries have been hit by war and natural disasters and pushed Congress to pass laws to dramatically cut the entire legal immigration system.


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it has to be through a legal process and a process really of merit



So yeah... big difference
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
8913 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 7:34 pm to
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How much more do you need to see that the GOPE is NOT on your side and help the dems?


Little late to the party aren't you.
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
4330 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 7:39 pm to
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From your own link:



You should have kept reading.

Because after this

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Trump's administration also has moved to cut legal immigration. It has granted fewer visas, approved fewer refugees, ordered the removal of hundreds of thousands of legal residents whose home countries have been hit by war and natural disasters and pushed Congress to pass laws to dramatically cut the entire legal immigration system.



came this

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At Wednesday’s briefing with regional reporters, Trump was asked if his unscripted remark in the State of the Union about letting in more legal immigrants represented a change in policy.

“Yes,” he said, “because we need people in our country because our unemployment numbers are so low, and we have massive numbers of companies coming back into our country.”


So the previous paragraph was an old policy that Trump was backing away from.

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it has to be through a legal process and a process really of merit


Our legal immigration system is as broken as our border. Someone advocating for "America First" should know that.

We also have plenty of people here already, so advocating for more immigrants isn't "America First". It is good to see that once again your movement has no principles. It's just whatever Trump wants. That's fine by me but stop acting like you're the group fighting the establishment.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
1114 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 7:39 pm to

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did Trump lobby to have recalcitrant Republicans in the House (on the wall) primaried because they didn't back funding the wall


Yes. Trump was sent to the WH on a mandate. The same voters gave the house and Senate to the GOP... and the GOPE blocked it.

Trump telling the American people the truth about those "representatives" was more than right. You may not like it, but we sent them there to do the damn job.

Finding replacements that push them out or into doing what the voters demanded (represent them) was and will always be the right thing.

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David_DJS


My guy, I'm not doing this over again with you. We all know where you stand.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
1114 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 7:40 pm to
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When?

Elections coming up here this year.





And we will see who steps up. If nobody steps up, then we continue to work.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
1114 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 7:41 pm to
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Little late to the party aren't you.


Not by 10 years! But there are those in this thread and they need to wake up.

Posted by YouKnowImRight
Member since Oct 2023
646 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 7:41 pm to
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Trump was sent to the WH on a mandate


I've never heard someone who lost the popular vote claim they had a mandate.
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
4330 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 7:42 pm to
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Trump was sent to the WH on a mandate


And Trump sent Marc Short to get the job done. An open borders, Koch brothers, chamber of commerce, establishment Republican.
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