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re: How many of you actually interact with or know government workers?

Posted on 2/20/25 at 3:14 pm to
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
3354 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 3:14 pm to
Several, and I work with them every day at work. On average most I am sure mean well but the reality is they work for the government because they couldn’t survive in the private sector and that’s a fact. I can’t tell you how many “queens” I meet nearly on a daily basis. I am sorry if you believe government is full of efficient, hard working people and no I make far more than they do lol
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
20665 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 3:14 pm to
quote:

As an engineer, I've worked with government employees at multiple points in my career, and at each point/experience level the government salary never came within 20% of what they'd make with equivalent experience at my company.


Various agencies report that the pay range for an electrical engineer working for the federal government is $102-143K. Let's say the midpoint is $120K.

Your company pays mid-level engineers $600K per year?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
149392 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 3:19 pm to
I’ve interacted with no less than 6 federal agencies.
Questions?
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
20878 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 3:25 pm to
Some quality melting. Not bad for a rookie.
Posted by David Fellows
Chicago but Georgia on my mind
Member since Mar 2024
1166 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 3:34 pm to
quote:

It’s not their fault


Hi, fed.

For every negative consequence in these past years, it was always 'muh brave fed worker' behind it.

Always.

And I never saw a single fed stand up and say "No, this is unAmerican", other than the ones that were already fired for not taking the jab.

And they're not feds anymore.

So yeah, no sympathy. Get a real job dude. And next time try not to push the pendulum so far, if you don't want it swinging back even harder.

The fault is yours.
This post was edited on 2/20/25 at 3:35 pm
Posted by Lurker No More
Member since Jan 2025
31 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 4:04 pm to
Are the same people who hate federal employees also the ones who hate teachers?
Posted by GetMeOutOfHere
Member since Aug 2018
895 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 4:57 pm to
How many posts do you have on r/fedmews?

Be honest.
Posted by aero1126
Member since Oct 2016
1159 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 5:01 pm to
quote:

Various agencies report that the pay range for an electrical engineer working for the federal government is $102-143K. Let's say the midpoint is $120K.

Your company pays mid-level engineers $600K per year?


What I meant is the government salary is at least 20% lower.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
1354 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 5:02 pm to
I'm a lowly DOD contractor. The gubment employees here are scared shatless. We have 2 recent DEI hires in the area where my desk is. Saw them talking yesterday and they were both ghost white pale. They know they are gone.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 5:06 pm to
quote:

There are plenty of remote VA workers (who were hired specifically as remote to serve underserved veterans in rural areas) that are not "bags of crap."


There are a lot of federal government positions that were turned into remote positions to attract better talent. Those people are now moving on because they don't want to live in some shithole like DC. "Muh post office workers" is a mask to hide the stupidty behind it.
Posted by aero1126
Member since Oct 2016
1159 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 5:08 pm to
quote:


I'm a lowly DOD contractor. The gubment employees here are scared shatless. We have 2 recent DEI hires in the area where my desk is. Saw them talking yesterday and they were both ghost white pale. They know they are gone.


If you're a DOD contractor, you're indirectly a government employee. Program/funding cuts will hit you just as easily before you get too excited over others potentially losing their jobs.
Posted by First Sergeant1
Enterprise, Alabama
Member since Dec 2018
816 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 5:14 pm to
My wife is a DOD civilian. She trains Army soldiers air traffic control. Been serving various positions for 23 years, first as a soldier, then as a civilian ATC GS positions, now as an ATC instructor….. what exactly are you asking about?
This post was edited on 2/20/25 at 5:21 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 5:20 pm to
quote:

If you're a DOD contractor, you're indirectly a government employee.


Nope, that isn't how it works.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
20878 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 5:23 pm to
quote:

If you're a DOD contractor, you're indirectly a government employee.


My brother is contracted by the military. He is in no way a government employee.
Posted by aero1126
Member since Oct 2016
1159 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 5:28 pm to
quote:

Nope, that isn't how it works.


What I was meaning is that budget cuts in the government affect a Contractor (and their job) just as much even though they don't work directly for the government.

The majority of Contracts have language where the government can have a Contractor removed from whatever project they are working on for them if they so choose. Pretty much every construction project you see with a government agency has that language for example.

So yes, if you're a Contractor for a government agency, you're kind of indirectly a government employee in the sense that your salary is government funded and your continued work on said project is also at the discretion of the government.

Contractor's also tend to be among the first to go in budget cut situations, when possible of course, because they are much more expensive than direct employees (as for a Contractor's services, the government has to pay their salary, benefits, contracting companies overhead/admin and of course the contracting companies profit).
This post was edited on 2/20/25 at 5:43 pm
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
19867 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 6:06 pm to
I have been a government employee and worked for a NGO. You want to know what changed? Unions. Unions are a blight on everything they touch. They are utterly unnecessary and throughly corrupt.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 6:20 pm to
quote:

The majority of Contracts have language where the government can have a Contractor removed from whatever project they are working on for them if they so choose.


Removing an FTE from a project isn't the same as firing a government employee. That language is there to remove people who aren't a good fit for a particular role. The position is still funded and will still be filled.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
96563 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 6:39 pm to
I deal with USDA and FSA workers and most are good.

OSHA and EPA workers on the other hand can all choke on a giant bag of dicks for eternity in hell
Posted by Swampcat
Member since Dec 2003
11622 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 6:44 pm to
Many great at their jobs but the ones who aren’t are really really bad. But it is extremely difficult to fire then .
Posted by TokenLiberal
Member since Feb 2025
226 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 7:08 pm to
quote:

Is it legitimate for you or is it just lack of understanding and jealousy?

Inability to understand and jealousy.
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