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re: How far does this go?
Posted on 5/7/21 at 10:41 am to rumproast
Posted on 5/7/21 at 10:41 am to rumproast
I have concluded that the 2% need to be removed from normal society. Let's take someplace like Iowa, bulldoze everything there, dig a moat around it, and put the 2% there to build their own utopian dream. They will find their ideas are shite without inflicting them on everyone else and those that survive will become much more conservative.
Note - Grammarly says this sounds inspirational and optimistic.
Note - Grammarly says this sounds inspirational and optimistic.
Posted on 5/7/21 at 10:46 am to Ross
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eventually people have breaking points but it’s complicated to ask how far an ideology will spread and how much can be taken from people before they revolt
I think you have to add the complications of our age. Meaning we're an overly stimulated society that is heavily interconnected by technology. It's quite truly a drug to half of Americans. When taking a bold stance wouldn't go beyond your family, your town, your state - then there was some insulation. But now, to quote Bill Burr, they'll more or less "turn your chip off" if you step out of line. How many American women would say whatever they're asked to say to keep their Insta account? It's horrifying.
Not being able to get likes or participate in Facebook drama or go to sporting events or ride in Uber, etc. etc. etc. - some of these things are probably more compelling than "you'll lose your job!". When we get to a point where your SM is turned off, your favorite sports teams ban you, you can't find work, your bank won't take your money - under our noses they've created a nearly complete system for compliance.
Which is why the right-leaning libertarian "those companies can do what they want" mindset is true but useless. The mindset has to be "we will demolish you and alienate you from your customers, your friends, your family if you adopt this poison" - it's the only way.
Posted on 5/7/21 at 10:47 am to crewdepoo
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most or all Democrats believe systemic racism still exists.
Which makes it weird that none of them can define it or give current examples of meaningful systemic racism today.
Even the reliable libs on this site do rhetorical somersaults to avoid having to explain systemic racism in 2021. Ever notice that? Name the major libs on this board and I guarantee each one of them have run from that discussion (usually after feigning righteous indignation at the question) at least once in the last month alone.
Posted on 5/7/21 at 10:50 am to rumproast
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It is hard for me to believe that this whole BLM nonsense and critical race theory is something that is supported by mainstream America. I honestly think it is a 2% or so fringe that is actually this ignorant. But, the 2% is louder than everybody else.
No, they re not. The Media is louder than anyone else, making it look as if the 2% is 82%.
Posted on 5/7/21 at 10:57 am to cwill
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each side
Look, a "both sides" moron.
Posted on 5/7/21 at 10:58 am to rumproast
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I honestly think it is a 2% or so fringe that is actually this ignorant. But, the 2% is louder than everybody else
A couple of thoughts -
A) It's more than 2%. You're right that it's inflated, but it's not that insignificant. Tons of lawyers, public school teachers, academics, government employees, HR personnel, clergy, etc. There are a lot of true believers, and then behind them there are a lot of people who've adopted the verbiage and might as well be. That figure is probably something like 15-20%. Behind them you've got another 20-30% who will largely go along to be accepted or be thought non-racist, and then another 20-30% after that who will sit on their hands because they've got families and jobs and simply can't afford to step out of line.
B) It's not the product of ignorance. For the core folks, let's say 5-10%, it's very intentional. Behind them you have folks who might be ignorant but are more likely just followers. I mean, it's hard to be "ignorant" about CRT if you're reading DiAngelo or Kendi and a lot of these folks are doing so (teachers, for example). Note that I don't exclude the idea many of these people are stupid, but I don't think they're ignorant.
Might seem like I'm splitting hairs here so apologies for that, but I think we're in a war and knowing your enemy is really important.
Posted on 5/7/21 at 11:00 am to Pettifogger
The social justice crowd controls:
-The mainstream media
-Big tech
-Sports industry
-Entertainment industry
-Corporate world
Conservatives and libertarians need to understand that voting is now irrelevant. We have to create a parallel society that is completely separate from the institutions listed above. Think of it as the 21st century Amish.
-The mainstream media
-Big tech
-Sports industry
-Entertainment industry
-Corporate world
Conservatives and libertarians need to understand that voting is now irrelevant. We have to create a parallel society that is completely separate from the institutions listed above. Think of it as the 21st century Amish.
Posted on 5/7/21 at 11:09 am to Pettifogger
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Might seem like I'm splitting hairs here so apologies for that, but I think we're in a war and knowing your enemy is really important.
You make good points and your last comment is spot on. That said, I think it's also important that the Right take an honest/grownup look at itself, and acknowledge that what has changed over the last 25 years isn't that the Left has lost its mind, come up with new shitty ideas or become a pack of lying hypocrites - they've always been those things - it's that the Right grew soft as frick, and even today while it's constantly bullied in media, the courts, and on the streets, we refuse to truly engage. After 2020 and all the bullshite that came out in the open, have we seen ANYTHING different from the Right? In fact, I think you could argue that the Right has shrunk further from the fight, and by a lot.
None of this shite is fixed before the Right fixes itself.
This post was edited on 5/7/21 at 11:11 am
Posted on 5/7/21 at 11:26 am to beauxgy
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If they didn't control 99% of the media,
True plus:
99% of Hollywood
99% of academia
99% of sports
99% of social media
99% of the USA's intelligence agencies
The filth has infiltrated everything.
Posted on 5/7/21 at 11:33 am to CDawson
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The filth has infiltrated everything.
Things will start getting better when conservatives change this thinking to - "we have allowed filth to infiltrate everything"
What's going on in this country is 10% Lefties being Lefties, and 90% the Right (weirdly) shrinking from the fight.
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