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Posted on 11/5/25 at 7:59 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 7:59 am to
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Hahaha. Slava Ukraine!!

You are such a fraud.



No I'm a person who was here during the WOT and pointed out the same issues with abuse of powers and authoritarianism who got the literal same talking point responses.

Note: I was right then.

The question is how MAGA went from anti-neocon to pro-neocon so quickly. There are literally some of the same posters from the GWB-WOT era who called me out, then flipped to anti-neocon MAGA (we'll ignore the few philosophical shifts between those 2 points), who are not pro-neocon "MAGA".

I reckon since my track record on the WOD/WOT has proven to be so correct, this weird MAGA combination of the 2 into a new authoritarianism will ultimately prove me correct once again. 20 years and counting.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:00 am to
100% no one did Fentanyl 20 years ago. Lortabs and Oxy were the issues. I say we were SAFER in the pill mill days then now. But i also think we end the war on drugs by not playing. Addicts going to be addicted. People should have the right to choose. If i want to drink myself to death that's totally fine. Yet cocaine kills less people then liquor and it's demonized. Fentanyl it's only a thing because of the restrictions on other drugs.
We can nuke the continent of south America and still wouldn't stop drugs being sold here. The demand is too high. Hell nations with death penalties for drugs still have issues. The demand is too high. You have to attack the demand.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:00 am to
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And as if coke from Venzuela isnt mixed with Fent killing ppl

That's at the street level, irrelevant to the discussion.

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Look at the excuses

You don't know what words mean. Excuses?

Is cocaine in any way as dangerous as fentanyl?

What is the difference in OD rate between cocaine and fentanyl?
Posted by Bandit1980
God's Country
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:00 am to
The "law", "logic"................really? From a knob-slobbing Dem who thinks' he's smarter than everyone because you speak a lot of big-word BS and try to talk above others?


And by the way, how many 'immigrants' are living with you these days?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:01 am to
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That's at the street level, irrelevant to the discussion.




You are making excuses for cocaine now. You are like the Prog Colombian Pres

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:01 am to
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I say we were SAFER in the pill mill days then now.

You are correct.

And people who aren't addicts who need opiates have problems getting them now.

The system got fricked by overregulating opioids. It's time that we admit the policy failures.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:02 am to
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From a knob-slobbing Dem

I'm not a DEM

Posted by TigerMyth36
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:05 am to
So cartels chopping off heads and limbs and presenting them in a public space isn't terrorism?
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:07 am to
Is it though? Most coke isn't stepped on until it's at the end of distribution. It's usually bulk transported as basic paste which needs to be treated in a solvent and made into poweder form. It actually looks more like crack when in bulk transport.
Powder fentanyl is a cheap cut. To boost fake or weak cocaine. It's more seen being used in fake pills and heroin cut then in cocaine.
So i ask has any of the recent strikes been tested for fentanyl?
And i think more fentanyl comes through ups and dhl then Venuzuela.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:09 am to
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So cartels chopping off heads and limbs and presenting them in a public space isn't terrorism?

Are they doing this with Americans?

If you're re-defining our legal concept of terrorism to "Terrorism anywhere against anywhere" then "terrorism" has no limit in application. That's not a good thing.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:10 am to
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Are they doing this with Americans?


Yes

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Horrific details emerge in killing of 9 US citizens, including 6 children, in ambush in Mexico


Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:11 am to
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No I'm a person who was here during the WOT and pointed out the same issues with abuse of powers and authoritarianism who got the literal same talking point responses.


Yet you continue to ignore, as you always did, do, and will do, the biggest 4th amendment violations in American history perpetuated by FISA abuse spying against the opposition candidate, special counsel spying on the opposition party, and the federal judge who has been right in the middle of it all including taking it upon himself to get assigned and rule against the executive. Which is being routinely overturned.

Yet you defended him in the rulings against the executive. Surely throwing out how you were so right all along.

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The question is how MAGA went from anti-neocon to pro-neocon so quickly. There are literally some of the same posters from the GWB-WOT era who called me out, then flipped to anti-neocon MAGA (we'll ignore the few philosophical shifts between those 2 points), who are not pro-neocon "MAGA".


And you have been dropped multiple hints on how the left became “Trump is going to start WWIII!!!!!!!” To “Kill those damn Russians in Ukraine!!!”

Except your example is narco trafficking and mine is actual, real world, conflict with another superpower that is partially backed by the third superpower.

Liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiil bit of a difference. Eh?

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this weird MAGA combination of the 2 into a new authoritarianism will ultimately prove me correct once again. 20 years and counting.



You actually lived through real authoritarianism of Biden’s Covid decrees… yet you attempt to scare people with your hypothetical one.
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 8:12 am
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:12 am to
I’m guessing Virginia and New Jersey voters are not down with this.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:13 am to
That was a mistake by those cartels during conflict, not what he described.

IIRC, the cartel killed those involved who made the mistake.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:15 am to
Pure cocaine isn't as deadly as many other drugs.
It isn't body addictive only mentally.
In many ways in small doses its safer then liquor. I'll die on that hill.

I think cocaine should be legal. Honestly.
It was hortibly abused by high society years ago and demonized. Sigmund Freud is often credited with being the person who switched society from eating and drinking it to snorting it.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:17 am to
I had surgery last year and was prescibed oxycodone and had to go to 6 pharmacies to find one to fill it. Its crazy.
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 8:18 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:17 am to
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the biggest 4th amendment violations in American history perpetuated by FISA abuse


I don't ignore it. I'm suffering MAGA fatigue.

Again, you're talking to the guy who was always against FISA who got the same insults for that as you're dishing out ITT.

And as long as FISA is in its current form, it's not even a 4th Amendment violation. You're mis-stating things for partisan effect.

FISA needs to be repealed.

Our entire anti-terrorism apparatus created by the WOT (which includes the authority to designate cartels terrorists) needs to be repealed.

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And you have been dropped multiple hints on how the left became “Trump is going to start WWIII!!!!!!!” To “Kill those damn Russians in Ukraine!!!”

wut

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You actually lived through real authoritarianism of Biden’s Covid decrees

Which I was openly opposed to, as well.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
16350 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:17 am to
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If you're re-defining our legal concept of terrorism to "Terrorism anywhere against anywhere" then "terrorism" has no limit in application. That's not a good thing.


Uhhhhhhhn…..

Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.): Called ICE a "terrorist force" in July 2025, which drew a strong rebuke from acting ICE Director Todd M. Lyons.

Rep. Delia Ramirez (D-Ill.): Referred to ICE as a "terrorist organization" during a speech in August 2025.

San Diego City Councilmember Sean Elo-Rivera (D-Calif.): Posted on social media in June 2025, calling ICE agents "terrorists" and their actions "state-sponsored terrorism".

Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson: Accused ICE of being "secret police" who "are terrorizing our communities".

Cynthia Nixon: Called ICE a "terrorist organization" in 2018 as an activist and former political candidate.


Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
73254 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:20 am to
Right. But we aren't fighting the Sinola, Jaliscoa or Gulf cartels directly in these strikes. We are hitting low level runners.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467164 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:20 am to
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Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.): Called ICE a "terrorist force" in July 2025, which drew a strong rebuke from acting ICE Director Todd M. Lyons.

Rep. Delia Ramirez (D-Ill.): Referred to ICE as a "terrorist organization" during a speech in August 2025.

San Diego City Councilmember Sean Elo-Rivera (D-Calif.): Posted on social media in June 2025, calling ICE agents "terrorists" and their actions "state-sponsored terrorism".

Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson: Accused ICE of being "secret police" who "are terrorizing our communities".

Cynthia Nixon: Called ICE a "terrorist organization" in 2018 as an activist and former political candidate.



You're equating puffery from pols to actual/legal designations of terrorism?
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