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re: How did Dem survive 9% inflation + $5 gas in 2022, while the GOP lost both chambers in 26?

Posted on 11/12/26 at 6:30 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/12/26 at 6:30 am to
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You’re not going to like the answer, but the biggest reason was retarded primary voters (MAGA) who nominated shite candidates


TOTALLY forgot about this. Yeah this played a part, too. Fair play.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/12/26 at 6:31 am to
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And…hopefully we have seen the last of Masshole and the MTG types. They helped divide the GOP.

MAGA-types are the concern here about dividing the party. 2026 proved MAGA is dead and a small part of the electorate. If they don't get on board with better anti-Left candidates, the DEMs will dominate
Posted by NorCali
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 11/12/26 at 6:32 am to
Voters tend to hold Rs more accountable. They stay home if the executive branch or congressional majority doesn’t hold true. Swing voters not enough to overcome lack of turnout for an unenthusiastic R side. D side more consistent numbers
Posted by Tiger1955
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Posted on 11/12/26 at 6:33 am to
How did independents vote? I believe they went to the Democrats because of the war.
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Posted on 11/12/26 at 6:42 am to
media messaging
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
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Posted on 11/12/26 at 6:44 am to
For a guy who claims he's not a Dem, you sure sound desperate for Republicans to commit electoral suicide by alienating the exact working class base that won them the White House in 2016 and 2024.

Low propensity voters sitting out a midterm isn't "MAGA being dead" it's literally how every midterm works when Trump isn't on the ballot.

Go ask Mitt Romney and John McCain how well the "ditch the populists and run safe establishment Republicans" strategy works in a presidential year.
This post was edited on 11/12/26 at 6:45 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/12/26 at 6:45 am to
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media messaging

Did the media take 2024 off?
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 11/12/26 at 6:45 am to
People aren’t mad about the prices in a vacuum. They are mad because they feel we were drug into an unnecessary war, in direct conflict with a trump campaign promise, and that caused the prices to increase
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
488014 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 6:46 am to
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For a guy who claims he's not a Dem, you sure sound desperate for Republicans to commit electoral suicide by alienating the exact working class base that won them the White House in 2016 and 2024.

I said if MAGA doesn't get on board, the DEMs dominate. I told MAGA to get in line so the DEMs wouldn't do that.

How can you try to spin that as being pro-DEM?

Also, nice new AI response
This post was edited on 11/12/26 at 6:46 am
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 11/12/26 at 6:47 am to
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Growing number of independents swing wildly with populist candidates.

And…hopefully we have seen the last of Masshole and the MTG types. They helped divide the GOP.

Well, you're right on the first point. But, on the second point, MAGA was always a very unique coalition. Don, Jr. straight up said last week that it included a lot of disaffected Dems. The Iran conflict just absolutely nuked the support of anti-war MAGA, anti-establishment Dems who came over, and libertarians. Who knows what the coalition looks like going forward. Half of this board seems to hate JD now. Rubio carrying the torch for MAGA is hysterical. Maybe Ron can somewhat fuse the factions together.
This post was edited on 11/12/26 at 6:48 am
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 11/12/26 at 6:47 am to
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are mad because they feel we were drug into an unnecessary war,


Yes I understand that but are we really in a War?
Why has oil plummeted after the midterms yet we are in a war?

I guess OMB was right again
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
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Posted on 11/12/26 at 6:48 am to
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If they don't get on board with better anti-Left candidates, the DEMs will dominate


Cornyn wasn’t going to beat Talafreako.

Conservatives and evangelicals stayed home and independents with a large number of young voters crossed over.

Conservatives need to find candidates that can appeal to the populist nature of independents and young voters, otherwise Dems will win.

MAGA is not dead. They are the only ones that voted.

I would argue that the old 1990’s style conservative GOP is dead.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 11/12/26 at 6:50 am to
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Conservatives need to find candidates that can appeal to the populist nature of independents and young voters, otherwise Dems will win.



This is what I loved so much about what my Gov(Ron) did when he came firing after the midterm L

He went right after the youth
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 11/12/26 at 6:50 am to
Biden did not start a new war after decades of failed and expensive warring in the middle east. He spectacularly failed the Afghanistan withdrawal, but that was Bush's war.

Trump campaigned against war and spending. He campaigned on jobs for Americans. When he got into office, he passed a massive omnibus spending bill, bragged about bringing in more Chinese nationals and foreign labor and chastised those who pointed to things like the highly inflated housing market.

Trump campaigned against corruption, even using Epstein like a banner towards the cause. When he got in, he suddenly didn't care about a lot of those things and called anyone who did "idiots" and "not MAGA".

He's waffled on immigration and now appears on the verge of championing amnesty. Nothing has happened to those he said would be punished for things like Russiagate, intelligence agency corruption, fraud, misuse of government benefits and electoral corruption.

And yes, inflation continues to climb and energy prices remain high due largely to the war he chose to start.

In short, he lied. Biden promised to do most of what he did. The consequences were obvious to anyone who has half a brain, but they chose that. They voted for Trump because he claimed to oppose it, but he didn't.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
488014 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 6:50 am to
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Conservatives and evangelicals stayed home

I don't know about Evangelicals, but conservatives were tired of MAGA/Trump

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and independents with a large number of young voters crossed over.

Again, tired of MAGA/Trump

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Conservatives need to find candidates that can appeal to the populist nature of independents and young voters, otherwise Dems will win.

Not necessarily. What propelled Trump in 2016 doesn't have to be the plan in 2028. That's not what happened in 2024, for example.

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MAGA is not dead.

We just had an election that was a referendum on Trump and MAGA and it was a SLAUGHTER for them.

Normal people are tired of the MAGA Idiocracy. MAGA is not viable moving forward.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
488014 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 6:51 am to
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This is what I loved so much about what my Gov(Ron) did when he came firing after the midterm L

He went right after the youth

Florida was a count hair away from flipping Blue, too
Posted by SDVTiger
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 11/12/26 at 6:54 am to
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Florida was a count hair away from flipping Blue, too


Look who the candidates were

Byron wouldnt even debate. And then there is cuckback

Thankfully Ron helped Byron across the finish line
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
488014 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 6:55 am to
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Byron wouldnt even debate.

That was a common theme among MAGA candidates

Letlow, Moody, Paxton, etc. did the same shite.

Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
71788 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 6:55 am to
I saw Brandon Weichert on a pod yesterday say he was told by someone (I think this was in Angie Nixon's camp) they spent almost no money on Nixon and only lost by 3 points. Next time around, they are going to spend like crazy.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
488014 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 6:57 am to
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I saw Brandon Weichert on a pod yesterday say he was told by someone (I think this was in Angie Nixon's camp) they spent almost no money on Nixon and only lost by 3 points.

This was a common theme nationally. There were a ton of random races where DEMs didn't spend shite and won or almost won

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