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re: How can people that believe in more than two genders be taken seriously?
Posted on 7/7/18 at 6:25 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Posted on 7/7/18 at 6:25 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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What if, perhaps, some people's ability to accept deviations from societal norms are as inate as others' desires to deviate from such societal norms?
Then we have ourselves quite the social quandary
Posted on 7/7/18 at 6:25 pm to AggieHank86
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Alex, I will take “gibberish” for $500
Smart move. If gibberish was my strong suit, I would choose it also! A sure winner!
Posted on 7/7/18 at 6:25 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Of course it does because it's similar to believing in Santa or the Easter Bunny. They don't exist and neither do genders besides male and female.
Posted on 7/7/18 at 6:27 pm to Brazos
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Santa or the Easter Bunny. They don't exist
Posted on 7/7/18 at 6:35 pm to Joshjrn
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Nice selective quotation.
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If one accepts that sex and gender are different, it defies both logic and observation to argue that there are zero people on this planet who display behaviors that are commonly associated with a gender that is different from their sex.
Thats the strawman you based the rest on.
Posted on 7/7/18 at 6:37 pm to Joshjrn
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Then we have ourselves quite the social quandary
Nah, not if everyone adheres to other societal norms regarding things like violence (non-violence?) and suffers the appropriate consequences for not doing so.
Posted on 7/7/18 at 6:37 pm to Dale51
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Thats the strawman you based the rest on.
*pats your head*
Posted on 7/7/18 at 6:38 pm to Joshjrn
quote:I have noticed the same of Foo recently.
I'm sure there have been more, but this is the second thread in which I've disagreed with a sizable portion of your position, yet found your posts to be informative, thoughtful, and interesting. Wish there were more like you on here
Posted on 7/7/18 at 6:39 pm to Joshjrn
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Considering you don't accept that sex and gender are different, how could what I said possibly be a strawman for your argument?
I don't happen to advocate explanations for cultural twitches.
Give or take a year, when did this idea of ones gender split from ones biological sex? Just curious.
Posted on 7/7/18 at 6:39 pm to JOJO Hammer
Okay, here is why this is a dangerous abnormality:
1. Insane parents are pushing and prodding children to assume gender bending dynamics at unbelievably young ages. Some as young 3 or 4. Children that age shouldn't even know what a gender is. Ever read or watch I am Jazz?
2. To deny that this is a mental illness defies logic. It sets many of these "confused" people up for serious medical problems and mental problems indefinitely. If I walk into a doctor's office and say I want to remove my healthy foot because I feel like it needs amputating. They will refuse and make sure I receive mental health counseling. If I want to have a healthy penis or breasts removed, they will send me be mentally evaluated so they can begin the process. I will be given hormone treatments and coaxed into my "lifestyle".
3. Women's sports are going to suffer greatly. Even with hormone replacements, a man is bigger, stronger, and faster. A woman who is taking make hormones is bigger, stronger, and faster. Real women are already losing events to "female" competitors.
4. Women and men have thousands of biological differences. Plugging in some hormones and putting on a costume does not actually change the biology.
5. When this behavior is endorsed and supported by media, universities, and other organizations, it is a clear nod to moral relativity that will continue to erode the foundations of common sense and normal society. These people are sick, literally. They are mentally ill and should be treated as such.
1. Insane parents are pushing and prodding children to assume gender bending dynamics at unbelievably young ages. Some as young 3 or 4. Children that age shouldn't even know what a gender is. Ever read or watch I am Jazz?
2. To deny that this is a mental illness defies logic. It sets many of these "confused" people up for serious medical problems and mental problems indefinitely. If I walk into a doctor's office and say I want to remove my healthy foot because I feel like it needs amputating. They will refuse and make sure I receive mental health counseling. If I want to have a healthy penis or breasts removed, they will send me be mentally evaluated so they can begin the process. I will be given hormone treatments and coaxed into my "lifestyle".
3. Women's sports are going to suffer greatly. Even with hormone replacements, a man is bigger, stronger, and faster. A woman who is taking make hormones is bigger, stronger, and faster. Real women are already losing events to "female" competitors.
4. Women and men have thousands of biological differences. Plugging in some hormones and putting on a costume does not actually change the biology.
5. When this behavior is endorsed and supported by media, universities, and other organizations, it is a clear nod to moral relativity that will continue to erode the foundations of common sense and normal society. These people are sick, literally. They are mentally ill and should be treated as such.
Posted on 7/7/18 at 6:40 pm to Brazos
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Of course it does because it's similar to believing in Santa or the Easter Bunny.
Santa and the Easter Bunny have more in common with Jesus than genders. Your point isn't as compelling as it sounds in your head.
Posted on 7/7/18 at 6:41 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Nah, not if everyone adheres to other societal norms regarding things like violence (non-violence?) and suffers the appropriate consequences for not doing so.
I think that's a question of degree.
Obviously a society in which people are coming to blows over the issue is less preferable to one in which they simply have vociferous verbal disagreements, but it's my contention that one in which people have vociferous verbal disagreements over the issue is less preferable to one in which society is harmonious over it.
Posted on 7/7/18 at 6:44 pm to Joshjrn
Problem arises when some see "harmony" as something more (and maybe for others, less) than just live and let live.
Posted on 7/7/18 at 6:47 pm to AggieHank86
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30 point rule
Thats just a mental construct. What scale are you referring to?
Posted on 7/7/18 at 6:47 pm to Brazos
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Save the gender and sex are different argument because that's bs too.
Why is that bullshite? I’d like to understand what your thoughts are here.
Posted on 7/7/18 at 6:48 pm to rbWarEagle
When did you come out as a pansexual?
Posted on 7/7/18 at 6:48 pm to BeeFense5
Don’t you have some finger painting to do or something?
Posted on 7/7/18 at 6:48 pm to Joshjrn
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*pats your head*
Uh Huh..
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