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House Judiciary Committee Open Hearing 10AM EST

Posted on 12/4/19 at 8:05 am
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/4/19 at 8:05 am
The committee will have 4 "witnesses" today. Below are the 4 and what they are expected to say in opening statements. Johnathan Turley is the lone Republican "witness" today.

Noah Feldman of Harvard Law School
"President Trump’s conduct described in the testimony and evidence clearly constitutes an impeachable high crime and misdemeanor under the Constitution."
"By freezing aid to Ukraine and by dangling the promise of a White House visit, the President was corruptly using the powers of the presidency for personal political gain."

Pamela S. Karlan of Stanford Law School
"Based on the evidentiary record, what has happened in the case before you is something that I do not think we have ever seen before: a president who has doubled down on violating his oath to 'faithfully execute' the laws and to 'protect and defend the Constitution.'"
"If we are to keep faith with the Constitution and our Republic, President Trump must be held to account."

Michael Gerhardt of the University of North Carolina School of Law
"When we apply our constitutional law to the facts found in the Mueller Report and other public sources, I cannot help but conclude that this President has attacked each of the Constitution’s safeguards against establishing a monarchy in this country."
"The President’s serious misconduct, including bribery, soliciting a personal favor from a foreign leader in exchange for his exercise of power, and obstructing justice and Congress are worse than the misconduct of any prior president, including what previous presidents who faced impeachment have done or been accused of doing."

Jonathan Turley of the George Washington University Law School
"I get it. You are mad. The President is mad. My Democratic friends are mad. My Republican friends are mad. My wife is mad. My kids are mad. Even my dog is mad . . . and Luna is a golden doodle and they are never mad. We are all mad and where has it taken us? Will a slipshod impeachment make us less mad or will it only give an invitation for the madness to follow in every future administration?"
"This is not how an American president should be impeached. For two years, members of this Committee have declared that criminal and impeachable acts were established for everything from treason to conspiracy to obstruction. However, no action was taken to impeach. Suddenly, just a few weeks ago, the House announced it would begin an impeachment inquiry and push for a final vote in just a matter of weeks."


This is even more comical than the other "witnesses" that had a bunch of hearsay. Now we get complete "opinion" from 3 Democrat law professors that they vetted to say what they want. All 3 of the democrat lawyers have all called for Trump's impeachment over the last 3 years before the Ukraine "inquiry" started
This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 8:08 am
Posted by Northwestern tiger
Long Island NY
Member since Oct 2005
23484 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 8:19 am to
No thanks.
Not watching this clown show
This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 8:19 am
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59880 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 8:19 am to
When does the crane arrive to position Humpty Dumpty up onto his wall?
Posted by MsHoghunter
Member since Oct 2017
2405 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 8:27 am to
Nadler is going to get knocked around like a ball in a pinball machine by Collins
Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
Member since Oct 2016
20828 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 8:29 am to
The hearing today will not move the needle on impeachment AT ALL

Nobody gives a shite what some partisan "legal scholars" have to say

This is an embarrassment to our country
Posted by LeroooyJenkins
Member since Nov 2017
1058 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 8:38 am to
Let me guess, 0 evidence and more muh feels
Posted by GeauxTrain
Member since Sep 2019
1691 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 8:41 am to
quote:

Nobody gives a shite what some partisan "legal scholars" have to say


Obama was also a "legal scholar". I wonder what his opinion is of political impeachments.
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14916 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 8:45 am to
Points are given to the viewer who fist identities the breakfast droppings on Nadler's suit.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43337 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 8:46 am to
quote:

Points are given to the viewer who fist identities the breakfast droppings on Nadler's suit.


I'm not looking at Nadler that close.
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14916 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 8:47 am to
quote:

I'm not looking at Nadler that close

Can't say I blame you.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51806 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 8:49 am to
shite Show 2.0
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30630 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 9:02 am to
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83462 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 9:06 am to
Wait, what is this?

What are the differences in what we jut went through and this hearing?
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83462 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 9:08 am to
quote:

The hearing today will not move the needle on impeachment AT ALL

Nobody gives a shite what some partisan "legal scholars" have to say
I’ve been fairly locked in to this entire thing and had NO idea this was going on today.

ETA: These old arse dudes will lose any casual viewers in a matter of minutes.
This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 9:09 am
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30630 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 9:08 am to
Four constitutional attorneys get to keep the charade going.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43337 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 9:10 am to
quote:

What are the differences in what we jut went through and this hearing?




Different committees.

The judicial is the actual one that should be handling impeachment inquiries. Which is why Schiff's little show was meaningless horseshite.

This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 9:10 am
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83462 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 9:10 am to
Was this always scheduled? Even before the intelligence committee hearings?

Or is this solely to keep the impeachment stuff fresh and in the headlines?
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83462 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 9:11 am to
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Centinel
I see, I see.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43337 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 9:12 am to
And Nadler already starting off with the same authoritarian shite Schiff did.

Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
21792 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 9:13 am to
quote:

Wait, what is this? What are the differences in what we jut went through and this hearing?


It has now moved to the judiciary committee, which is the committee that will write up the formal impeachment charges. They are questioning biased lawyers now, who will give their biased opinion on why its constitutional for impeachment.

All 3 of the democrat lawyers have previously stated Trump should be impeached, all before the Ukraine inquiry...

Repubs going to go in dry on these folks.
"Can you please tell us a case where you got someone convicted of a made-up crime, while having no direct evidence?"
Anyone that ever had one of these lawyers prosecute them, will be filing an appeal for biased actions after today
This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 9:14 am
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