Honest Question to Libs regarding ANTIFA and Neo-Nazis

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I ask because I got into a heated discussion with an extremely liberal friend of mine.

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Find new friends

Because you and the pres are essentially equating a group of idiots who, yes, are sometimes violent, but in general just have a dumb political view, with Nazis - people who literally advocate for genocide. They are not the same thing. If trump wants to call out antifa that's fine but he should've picked a better time to do it. Charlottesville was not on them. And they are still not Nazis. I can't believe I have to explain this to you.

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Because you and the pres are essentially equating a group of idiots who, yes, are sometimes violent, but in general just have a dumb political view, with Nazis - people who literally advocate for genocide.

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I suggest you go research communism, comrade.

antifa are misguided losers who need to be kicked out of mom's basement and/or thrown in jail, but I'm not sure you can say they are as bad as literal nazi's

It's so stupid that we even have to have this conversation though. You're talking about ~10k on the extreme left and extreme right who don't represent anyone but themselves. No y'all are not Nazi's/KKK and believe it or not just because I don't support Trump (and do so vocally at that) that does not make me an Antifa sympathizer.

It all boils down to this:

They disagree with the words and feel they are hurt by them, so they have no problem using physical violence to combat it.

It's like when a man cheats on a woman and comes home to find his car destroyed and all of his clothes burned. They are incapable of separating physical pain with emotional pain.

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I can't believe I have to explain this to you.

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Apparently you need someone to explain commons sense stuff to you. Nazis, et al represent a minuscule part of America - they only came out and made themselves known because of the unopposed excesses of the Antifa/BLM groups under the assumption = "hell, if those guys can go out and create mayhem and wreck shite, and beat up people, why can't we? = 'murika' and all" They did not come out to Charolettesville to advance an ideology, they came out to make a scene. Antifa came out not to promote or defend an ideology, but to create violence. Both sides succeeded.

I would have rather seen Trump say "there are batshit crazy evil people on both sides" rather than "there are good people on both sides" - the POTUS statement is accurate, but the former statement is more accurate and more to the point.

For instance, I was unaware that the group which actually got the permit to hold the 'rally' in defense of the statue was associated with Nazis. Now admittedly, I was on vacation and away from the TV, but I had heard about it on the radio. IF I had been in that area with nothing else to do, I may well have gone to that park to lend my support to defending the statues - if for no other reason than to be on the ground to witness what antics is all about. I am as far from a 'nazi' as you can possibly be. I suspect there were several or many people attracted to that park for the very same reason. Certainly not everyone there was a nazi.

And that is beside the point - the group had a permit to be there. Antifa had no permit - they organized a 'protest' with the singular goal of inciting violence. To me, Antifa, as a group, is far more responsible for what happened than are the Nazis, as a group.

Now we know that some crazy person went off the rails and rammed a car into a group of people - that was not advocated by the Nazis - that was in response to what the antifa group was doing.

Both sides of this event were pieces of dog shite. Both sides should have been equally condemned for the violence that erupted. The individual who committed the murder should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

If you are going to condemn the Nazis for this, you have a lot of condemnation to hand out to BLM for the dozen assassinations of policemen under their influence, and for a lot of shed blood by the antifa group for attacking peaceful groups trying to listen to a scheduled presentation by conservative groups.

Antifa represents x1000 more of a threat to the USA than the miserable antics of the KKK and neoNazis.

"I can't believe I have to explain this to you"

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Because you and the pres are essentially equating a group of idiots who, yes, are sometimes violent, but in general just have a dumb political view, with Nazis - people who literally advocate for genocide

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You're confused.

I agree. Even better.

I wont argue with you on that. Those small numbers makes it even more baffling to me that trump wouldnt condemn them initially. No one would tell him to pump the brakes if he had done so. Or at least no one worth taking seriously.