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re: Homosexuality not caused by genetics. They ar not "born that way ETA Addit link added
Posted on 7/4/17 at 12:40 pm to Swoopin
Posted on 7/4/17 at 12:40 pm to Swoopin
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All I know is that pretty much every gay person I've known, it was obvious pretty early in their life... at least in hindsight. Whether it's genetic or not I am in favor of treating it as though it is outside of their control.
Obvious in what way, may I ask? I mean, I've known some guys that seemed effeminate, that got married had families and, as far as I know, never touched a man. I've known some so-called he-men that came out gay.
Behavior is always in your control. You may choose not to control that behavior, but I can't think of anything in my behavior in which I have absolutely no control. I control if I rape, steal, sleep with a man or a woman, whether i have sex or not at all....I am guessing you are saying a preference is not controllable?
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Posted on 7/4/17 at 12:40 pm to Dire Wolf
And all I'm saying is that without any clear evidence of a mutation or any direction to go in to PROVE it is genetic, than it's probably not.
I take a libertarian stance when it comes to peoples' civil rights; and no one should have that fricked with.
But when you try and twist science to fit your political agenda, there is a problem.
Think how much further we would be in terms of climate change had the whole thing not been politicized. And the Democratic Party is to blame for that more often than not.
Making them scumbags.
I take a libertarian stance when it comes to peoples' civil rights; and no one should have that fricked with.
But when you try and twist science to fit your political agenda, there is a problem.
Think how much further we would be in terms of climate change had the whole thing not been politicized. And the Democratic Party is to blame for that more often than not.
Making them scumbags.
Posted on 7/4/17 at 12:42 pm to Errerrerrwere
Regardless of this study, I want Toddy put in a camp anyway.
Posted on 7/4/17 at 12:43 pm to Dale51
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Is there any way to test for conditions like dyslexia or having the gey? Would it show in genetic testing?
dyslexia basically just the mind processing info different areas of the Brain They can see it scans
Posted on 7/4/17 at 12:44 pm to Dire Wolf
So is that a genetic problem or a mental problem?
Posted on 7/4/17 at 12:46 pm to Dire Wolf
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I am not scientist but of the handful of gay people I know, I have never met one that felt they had a "choice".
I gotta say...that I have had gay people say they are the same as heterosexual except they prefer men.
However, I could not have sex with a guy. My body wouldn't cooperate. I find the thought of having sex with a man repulsive. I would not have an erection. However, gay men get married and have kids sometimes.
How can they do that if they are the same as a heterosexual only preferring men instead of women?
Posted on 7/4/17 at 12:50 pm to Errerrerrwere
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How do you inherit dyslexia? Dyslexia has a large inherited component (about 50%). Ten important genes have so far been identified; many are involved in setting up the brain during development in utero. Boys are more likely to be affected than girls.
Posted on 7/4/17 at 12:51 pm to Dire Wolf
Well, if you have a link that answers your question about your son and dyslexia.
Now, do you have the same for homosexuality?
Now, do you have the same for homosexuality?
Posted on 7/4/17 at 12:53 pm to Errerrerrwere
So far 21 froots downvoted.......
Posted on 7/4/17 at 12:53 pm to Dire Wolf
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I am not scientist but of the handful of gay people I know, I have never met one that felt they had a "choice".
Ask a person with an ill temper if they have a choice to be ill-tempered. I'd wager most would say they didn't have a choice. A person's perceptions of their choices isn't an especially reliable data point.
Posted on 7/4/17 at 12:55 pm to the808bass
But Obama said he DECIDED to choose the heterosexual life, remember?
Posted on 7/4/17 at 12:55 pm to Errerrerrwere
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Well, if you have a link that answers your question about your son and dyslexia.
I am the dyslexic . I don't have a son
It's likely my dad is too but they didn't care to test for that back in the day
This post was edited on 7/4/17 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 7/4/17 at 12:58 pm to Dire Wolf
Well, from what I understand it is a plethora of reasons.
A neurobiological disorder. But my point still stands. Why must ever major faction of the Democratic Party be reduced to victims?
Is it because victims are never set free? They can tow the party line forever and never leave?
I know the answer to that question. No need to respond.
A neurobiological disorder. But my point still stands. Why must ever major faction of the Democratic Party be reduced to victims?
Is it because victims are never set free? They can tow the party line forever and never leave?
I know the answer to that question. No need to respond.
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:07 pm to llfshoals
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if you need a link for basic logic there's no hope for you
Typical response for someone that can't defend a position.
I guess the logic is so basic that this study and all the other related studies were just a big waste of time, huh? Some jackass on tiger droppings has all the answers.
This post was edited on 7/4/17 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:31 pm to the808bass
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Ask a person with an ill temper if they have a choice to be ill-tempered. I'd wager most would say they didn't have a choice. A person's perceptions of their choices isn't an especially reliable data point.
Wow. that's actually a very good point!
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:39 pm to Errerrerrwere
There was a medical journal about 30 years old that also came to the conclusion that women were natural lesbians...and society and security and history and the most powerful, the motherly instinct and want for children, makes men attractive to them.
But really, they are comfortable with doing each other.
The study must have watched porn.
You never see in porn the camera guy suddenly asking two guys in a threesome to go gay but women do it without flinching.
But really, they are comfortable with doing each other.
The study must have watched porn.
You never see in porn the camera guy suddenly asking two guys in a threesome to go gay but women do it without flinching.
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:43 pm to Errerrerrwere
This board sure is obsessed with homosexuals, that's one thing I know for sure.
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:46 pm to IdahoTiger
Nah.
I'm more obsessed with the left's skewed version of science (I.e. Climate change, homosexuality) and how they politicize their views for political gain.
I'm more obsessed with the left's skewed version of science (I.e. Climate change, homosexuality) and how they politicize their views for political gain.
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:50 pm to Errerrerrwere
Ya we'll have to agree to disagree. As a gay man though I can tell you I was definitely born this way. I've been gay as long as I can remember and I have a twin who's straight. Funny how y'all pick and choose which scientific articles to believe based on your preconceived beliefs and unwillingness to admit that the left might actually be right every once in a while.
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:56 pm to IdahoTiger
quote:I've been a Conservative, Republican for as long as I can remember. I highly doubt that was genetic, though.
I've been gay as long as I can remember
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