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re: Holding off on vaccinations for kids for now

Posted on 6/9/25 at 6:40 pm to
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 6:40 pm to
This is why anyone with a young child should proceed with extreme caution and vigilance. Most doctors are willfully ignorant about vaxxes.

LIST OF VACCINE INGREDIENTS

CANCER has been routinely induced by VACCINES since 1960 (Natural News)
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 6:41 pm to
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Well, this is a measured, reasoned response. That's usually not allowed in these type threads.


A lot, if not many, "antivaxers" think this way... we've been broadly painted with a extreme quackery brush, though.

Question for the true believers

Why do infants need a vaccine that was commonly reserved for the sex trade, drug users and healthcare workers?
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 6:41 pm to
So you want guidance from a fricking wingnut about something that could have an impact on their health?

This country is doomed.
Posted by beaux duke
Member since Oct 2023
4880 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 6:41 pm to
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I am going to hold off until we get more guidance from RFK

good grief
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
4839 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 6:43 pm to
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One of the questions RFK is asking is: what are we missing here? What are THEY missing?


The truth.

Vaxxes have always been bioweapons. And RFK Jr knows it.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
5195 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 6:45 pm to
My daughter and son in law held off at birth except for one vacc. Don’t recall which. And her baby is on a delayed vacc schedule and she requests vacc ahead of time with no aluminum when possible. I think one vacc at a time or maybe 2 and delayed others. She was older baby when beginning. I’d rather her not have any given, but not my call to make and I won’t pressure her. It’s stressful enough.
Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
14016 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 6:46 pm to
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The classics like MMR I’ll get my newborn. I’m not giving him Truvada for Prep or Covid or Ozempic or any of that.

Why not give them Gardasil. You never know when infants in a hospital nursery might opportunistically engage in a hookup.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
4839 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 6:47 pm to
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Question for the true believers

Why do infants need a vaccine that was commonly reserved for the sex trade, drug users and healthcare workers?


Love to see someone, anyone defend this.

The CDC, guilty of gross negligence (at best) and accessory to mass m*rder & injuries should also be disbanded. It's not about "control" of diseases, it's about facilitation.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
31600 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 6:48 pm to
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ost doctors are willfully ignorant about vaxxes.



Willingly? Please point me to the abundance of knowledge and facts we are willfully ignorant to. It's not as cut and dry as some people think. I'm not a vaccine pusher and was 100% against the COVID vaccine and many others. I think children get too many. We need real data and studies from sources we can trust. The FDA has lost that trust.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
31600 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 6:53 pm to
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Love to see someone, anyone defend this.

I agree with you 100% on this one. It's unnecessary. First do no harm.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21611 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 6:55 pm to
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Love to see someone, anyone defend this.


They trust their doctors.. who follow the CDC... who worship ACIP.

They don't realize trusting their doctors means trusting EVERY organization that informs their doctors... and not all organizations are out for best interest. They like blanket policies... like the gay vax, the hep vax, the hpv vax. All of those can be targeted to beneficial populations but it's just EASIER to make blanket recommendations.

Blanket recommendations and simplicity were also guiding factors in determining the covid vax roll out, implementation and continuing boosters.
This post was edited on 6/9/25 at 6:56 pm
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 6:57 pm to
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Why do infants need HepB vax?


Clearly a question for a physician. What's there for YOU to think about?

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Why do boys need a vax that was originally approved for just young women to prevent cervical canc


Same as above. A question for a physician. What part do you take in thinking about the answer to this question?

Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21611 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 7:02 pm to
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We need real data and studies from sources we can trust. The FDA has lost that trust.


Bingo.

Healthcare workers are largely beholden to their organizations for which they work and health insurance companies who the two are beholden to multiple layers of government guidance and recommendations and really do not have the time, nor the wiggle room, nor the permission of their employers to thoughtfully develop their own educated leanings on these things.

Funny story... my daughter's kid's pediatrician recommended vitD supplements very early on.

Did not check levels... admitted that it was her practice's policy to recommend them to ALL babies based on a study of black babies, in Chicago, in WINTER. My granddaughter is white like the OG snow white, lives in the south and this was in SPRINGTIME.

It was a blanket recommendation... no consideration that this is SC, not Chicago and that the child is WHITE.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
4839 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 7:02 pm to
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Please point me to the abundance of knowledge and facts we are willfully ignorant to.


Try researching the subject, Doc. Hire a researcher if you don't have the time. Doctors are NOT "researchers"; they are diagnosticians. But they like their patients rely on blind trust when it come to vaxxes and meds.

The anecdotal evidence of willful "ignorance" within the medical professional is pretty solid. Doctors are like military -- they mostly do as their told, and stay in their lane and follow convention.

quote:

I'm not a vaccine pusher and was 100% against the COVID vaccine and many others.


I commend you for your judgement, instinct, and ethics.

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We need real data and studies from sources we can trust. The FDA has lost that trust.



True. But is to be a trusted source now?

Not only the FDA but the AMA and CDC also lost public trust. Dependable white paper journals also lost their credibility in 2020 when they began expunging research papers and studies related to viral therapeutics.
This post was edited on 6/9/25 at 7:09 pm
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
4839 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 7:03 pm to
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quote:
Why do infants need HepB vax?


Clearly a question for a physician. What's there for YOU to think about?


Seriously now??
Posted by AUX3
Member since Dec 2010
3999 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 7:04 pm to
Covid really destroyed the trust. It seemed as if ALL doctors except the few that were fired or silenced, were all in on the covid vaccine and distancing orders by simply parroting what they were told or given. My concern then was how that many followed along. It seemed the arguments were always fair and balanced and yet there was definitely a get in line mentality by Drs. I’ve heard many Drs would tell their patients not to get the Covid vax, maybe close to 30% but their public silence didn’t help. There should have been way more debate about the handling of Covid and the vaccine. That being said, we shouldn’t expect the Drs not to parrot what they’re told on the vaccine schedule. The media labeled all non vax folks criminals basically. I believe recent data has clearly decided that was a horrible narrative and the vax did little to nothing to prevent getting or spreading COVID. That was a CDC narrative. So probably smart to question the Experts. The cloth masks were a dead giveaway from anyone with thought.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21611 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 7:06 pm to
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Clearly a question for a physician. What's there for YOU to think about?


I am responsible for my children's health and wellbeing.

Some things are obviously wrong. An infant has no need for a HepB vaccine in normal circumstances.

Are you touched or something?

Doctor's typically recommend what they are given to recommend... and the pressure from employers, HMOs and other organizations is real.

Physicians are no more vaccine experts than most people, they have to trust what the CDC is informing them is true. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't and sometimes it needs better tailoring to benefitted audiences.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
31600 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 7:07 pm to
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rue. But is to be a trusted source now?

Not only the FDA but the AMA and CDC also lost public trust. Dependable white paper journals also lost their credibility in 2020 when they began expunging research papers and studies related to viral therapeutics.

We don't have one. I'm hoping RFK Jr. and others will help restore our trusted organizations.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
4839 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 7:07 pm to
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They like blanket policies... like the gay vax, the hep vax, the hpv vax.

All of those can be targeted to beneficial populations but it's just EASIER to make blanket recommendations.

Blanket recommendations and simplicity were also guiding factors in determining the covid vax roll out, implementation and continuing boosters.


Hopefully this all changes and doctors step up on their own independent research and validations of efficacy and safety. (their problem in bucking the convention of "blanket recommendations" is having to answer to their corporate health care overlords who keep score with checklists.)
Posted by tiger11
Houston
Member since Mar 2004
3326 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 7:07 pm to
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The classics like MMR


are just as much of a problem. my son was vaccine injured at 12 months from his MMR shot. zero shots are going into my kids from here on out.
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