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Hockey stick shows the earth is warming

Posted on 3/21/18 at 8:26 am
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24756 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 8:26 am
Once you adjust the data a tad...

Temps adjusted 2.5 degrees
This post was edited on 3/21/18 at 8:31 am
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 8:27 am to
Climate Denier!!!!!!
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98887 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 8:28 am to


Your link sucks
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24756 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 8:32 am to
quote:

Your link sucks


Link denier!



Fixed...
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98887 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 8:35 am to
Here's the key takeaway:

quote:

Most of these adjustments are due to simply making up data. Every month, a certain percentage of the 1,218 United States Historical Climatology Network (USHCN) stations fail to report their data, and the temperature gets estimated by NOAA using a computer model. Missing data is marked in the USHCN database with an “E” – meaning “estimated.” In 1970, about 10% of the data was missing, but that number has increased to almost 50%, meaning that almost half of the current adjusted data is fake.
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 8:42 am to
There are some fancy new statistical methods that allow analyses to move forward despite missing data. However, they are not fully tested, proven, or understood. Also, best case scenario they yield an answer with relatively small bias but large variance, but in general you can expect a minimum of moderate bias due to imprecision and large variance due to approximation. Either way, when you are missing 50% of the data, there is no respectable statistician that would ever tell you to rely on such an analysis.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24756 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 8:45 am to
So they use computer models to plug in today's temps to figure out what tomorrow's temps will be. They've been wrong every time and always estimating on the high side - sometimes spectacularly wrong.

So do they now they use the same models to "predict" what the temperatures should have been at various times in the past. Why do they even need past temps at all? Just measure the temp today, plug in the CO2 measurements, and use the model to tell us what the temps were at any time in history.
This post was edited on 3/21/18 at 8:47 am
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38741 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 8:45 am to
Why not just leave missing data out and go with the sample you have?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36056 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 8:48 am to
The missing data points which have to be "estimated" seem to be considerably warmer than the reported data.

I wonder if all the data sensors are breaking because of the extreme heat?


;-)
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18075 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 9:19 am to
This is a major catastrophe that could send our entire planet’s climate system into a tail-spin of epic destruction.



A tailspin of epic destruction, people!
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19711 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 9:47 am to
This isn't really news, they do this same thing for areas on the globe where there is no sensor coverage, which is most of the oceans, much of Africa, pretty much all the large and either backward or hard to reach areas on the planet. All of these places, they just insert the data from their model, which has the warning they want to see, into the data set and weight it the same as measured data. When they show you the scary picture of the world and where it's getting hottest fastest, more often than not there is no actual measured data from those areas.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63066 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 9:55 am to
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The adjustments being made almost perfectly match atmospheric CO2 levels – showing that the data is being altered precisely to match global warming theory.


Nice. The only way weather scientists can be right is by back filling data that perfectly matches their hypothesis.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67490 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 10:07 am to
quote:

Most of these adjustments are due to simply making up data. Every month, a certain percentage of the 1,218 United States Historical Climatology Network (USHCN) stations fail to report their data, and the temperature gets estimated by NOAA using a computer model

I now believe in global warming....cooling.....raining.....snowing.....change.......what was the question again?
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2012
13574 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 10:12 am to
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Jax-Tiger


Why do you hate science. I bet you believe there are only 2 sexes. xx xy.

Racist.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24756 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 11:15 am to
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I bet you believe there are only 2 sexes. xx xy.



Damn. It's like you have ESP. Mind. Blown.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26643 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 11:18 am to
That's just insane. It's 2018. For God's sake, just go by the temps that were reported by the local weatherman. How hard is that?!?
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