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re: Hobby Lobby protest in Shreveport

Posted on 7/13/14 at 5:18 pm to
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Posted on 7/13/14 at 5:18 pm to
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If you want that, you have to start addressing it like we did cigarettes. Ad campaigns showing the diseases that it causes, shock tactics, etc.



So instead of the government feeding children healthier foods at school lunches -

you propose the government forcing the purveyors of unhealthy foods to place warnings on their foods?


Somehow that doesn't strike me as less government intervention.


Especially considering we know its really mindset that causes obesity, not unhealthy food.



BTW - whatever we're doing lately - its right:
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Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 7/13/14 at 5:18 pm to
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Instead of catering junk food ads to kids, make it illegal.
I disagree with that.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 7/13/14 at 5:18 pm to
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I disagree with that.



Because children need to be responsible for their own decisions and their parents just shouldn't let them watch television.
Posted by MSCoastTigerGirl
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
35525 posts
Posted on 7/13/14 at 5:20 pm to
What? Don't just casty me without a response.

I just saw a Pizza Hut ad with the new ninja turtles movie.

Read up on it. It is known that junk food ads are targeted at kids. There has been a lot of research on it. Happy meals, unhealthy cereal, etc.

Ultimately, parents are to blame. And it's also known that obesity is more rampant in the poor.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48517 posts
Posted on 7/13/14 at 5:23 pm to
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Ultimately, parents are to blame. And it's also known that obesity is more rampant in the poor.


Wait, poor people are poor decision makers?

Stop the presses.

How about we let people start feeling some of the consequences of their poor decision making?
Posted by MSCoastTigerGirl
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
35525 posts
Posted on 7/13/14 at 5:23 pm to
Like I said, I just saw a Pizza Hut ad with the ninja turtles. Kids see it and want that shite.

Ultimately, it is the parents fault. The obesity epidemic in this country isn't going anywhere. Best thing that can be done is to make the fattening and unhealthy foods less appealing.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 7/13/14 at 5:24 pm to
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Ultimately, parents are to blame.


That's just a convenient excuse for our failure to do anything about the issue collectively.

For instance, our failure to ban crap like this:
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I just saw a Pizza Hut ad with the new ninja turtles movie.

Read up on it. It is known that junk food ads are targeted at kids. There has been a lot of research on it. Happy meals, unhealthy cereal, etc.



In the UK advertising to children is restricted. In Norway - its straight up illegal to advertise to children under 12. I would have no problem with that. If you can't sell your product by advertising to the parents - then too bad.
Posted by MSCoastTigerGirl
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
35525 posts
Posted on 7/13/14 at 5:24 pm to
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How about we let people start feeling some of the consequences of their poor decision making?



How would you suggest doing this?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
73208 posts
Posted on 7/13/14 at 5:25 pm to
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So instead of the government feeding children healthier foods at school lunches -
Did I say this? I must've missed it.
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you propose the government forcing the purveyors of unhealthy foods to place warnings on their foods?
Nope. I'm for making ads that show fat people unable to walk up stairs, or like the cigarette ones where the person is in a hospital bed talking about their health problems. Posters on subway walls pointing out the harms of eating unhealthily.

No one reads warning labels anyway.
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Especially considering we know its really mindset that causes obesity, not unhealthy food.
Is that not what I have been saying?

That article is very good news, but you should read the entire thing. This is a problem throughout society, and as great as it is that the rate in 2-5 year olds is falling, the rest of society has stayed the same or worsened.
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She cautioned that these very young children make up a tiny fraction of the American population and that the figures for the broader society had remained flat, and had even increased for women over 60. A third of adults and 17 percent of youths are obese, the federal survey found. Still, the lower obesity rates in the very young bode well for the future, researchers said.
Now, I could be wrong, that may be a sign of great things to come, but I'll hold off on celebrating until those results continue.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 7/13/14 at 5:25 pm to
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What? Don't just casty me without a response.

I just saw a Pizza Hut ad with the new ninja turtles movie.


I don't care


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Read up on it. It is known that junk food ads are targeted at kids. There has been a lot of research on it. Happy meals, unhealthy cereal, etc.




I don't care


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Ultimately, parents are to blame. And it's also known that obesity is more rampant in the poor.


I don't care





I don't need the do gooder Gov making MORE rules to live by.




Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48517 posts
Posted on 7/13/14 at 5:26 pm to
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How would you suggest doing this?


By not subsidizing poor decision making.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
73208 posts
Posted on 7/13/14 at 5:26 pm to
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Because children need to be responsible for their own decisions and their parents just shouldn't let them watch television.


What?
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36129 posts
Posted on 7/13/14 at 5:26 pm to
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Nope. I'm for making ads that show fat people unable to walk up stairs, or like the cigarette ones where the person is in a hospital bed talking about their health problems. Posters on subway walls pointing out the harms of eating unhealthily.


Paid for by who? The nanny state?
Posted by MSCoastTigerGirl
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
35525 posts
Posted on 7/13/14 at 5:26 pm to
That was my point.

But I get as a reply.


Ever been in a grocery store and see a kid screaming for a candy bar because Spider-Man is on it? It's targeted advertising.

And I'm agreeing with you. I want to right now.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73969 posts
Posted on 7/13/14 at 5:26 pm to
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You mean - like - by trying to get kids to eat their vegetables? Last time I check Republicans have steadfastly opposed and ridiculed all such efforts.
School districts are revolting against Chewbacca's school lunch program, does her spawn eat the shite they propose?
Posted by MSCoastTigerGirl
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
35525 posts
Posted on 7/13/14 at 5:27 pm to
I don't care.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
36486 posts
Posted on 7/13/14 at 5:27 pm to
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You're exactly correct. I have no idea how its "overreach" for the federal government to place conditions on what kinds of foods may be bought to feed children with our taxes. It just seems like common sense to me, actually.


So you're ok with restricting what foods can be purchased with food stamps?
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73969 posts
Posted on 7/13/14 at 5:27 pm to
Thousands of share holders? Got a link to how many share holders own Hobby Lobby?
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36129 posts
Posted on 7/13/14 at 5:28 pm to
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That was my point.

But I get as a reply.


Ever been in a grocery store and see a kid screaming for a candy bar because Spider-Man is on it? It's targeted advertising.

And I'm agreeing with you. I want to right now.



I agree with you 100% on everything.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
73208 posts
Posted on 7/13/14 at 5:28 pm to
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In the UK advertising to children is restricted. In Norway - its straight up illegal to advertise to children under 12. I would have no problem with that. If you can't sell your product by advertising to the parents - then too bad.
Did your parents never tell you no?

The word "no" worked well in our household, or are Democrats considering that "child abuse" nowadays?
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