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re: Hey Dems, are you not embarrassed by Joe Biden?

Posted on 4/24/20 at 11:17 am to
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 11:17 am to
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What? His comment was that the Kansas City Chiefs from Kansas City, Missouri winning the Super Bowl had made “the great state of Kansas proud”. It was unquestionably, inarguably, objectively wrong.







It was objectively irrelevant and not worth 2 days of news cycle. The shitstorm over it for days says more about the shite stirrers than Trump.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33505 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 11:17 am to
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Do you disagree that they are now?
Sounds like he's calling bullshite on your absurd revisionist construct that somehow modern democrats were in charge of Jim Crow.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 11:19 am to
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Sounds like he's calling bull shite on your absurd revisionist construct that somehow modern democrats were in charge of Jim Crow.



You Democrats do think blacks are dumb.

You think they should have "special" rights.
Posted by Microtiger
Ithaca, New York
Member since Nov 2010
1435 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 11:21 am to
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Hey Dems, are you not embarrassed by Joe Biden?


I'm extremely embarrassed by him and I can't believe he's the best that the Democratic party can come up with.

That TigerChief10 says "They don’t feel shame or embarrassment. Otherwise they wouldn’t call themselves democrats." is asinine. Plenty of Democrats are more than unenthusiastic about Biden. But no, you'll go ahead and paint all Democrats with the absurd caricature you have in your head of them.

Spending too much time on a board like this, you could easily say "conservatives don't have the ability to question Trump and support everything he says and does 100%", but that's not true and this board is an echo chamber that doesn't reflect reality. There are rational conservatives who understand that no man is perfect and it's healthy to be critical of their actions independently from the human being, just like there are reasonable Democrats who understand Trump has done things that are positive.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 11:28 am to
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That TigerChief10 says "They don’t feel shame or embarrassment. Otherwise they wouldn’t call themselves democrats." is asinine. Plenty of Democrats are more than unenthusiastic about Biden. But no, you'll go ahead and paint all Democrats with the absurd caricature you have in your head of them.



Do tell us any significant policy differences between any of the democratic presidential candidates and between any of their members of Congress.

Tell about the big changes in the party's direction that all those fresh new moderates elected in 2018 have engineered.

You really want to compare your entire fricking party to one message board?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140630 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 11:38 am to
You seem sane. I’d love your opinion on the danger a biased press brings with it.
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
13100 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 11:45 am to
Trump has bumbled around speaking for 3+ years. He has made a complete fool of himself. Trump's many mistakes inoculate Biden from his.
Posted by Microtiger
Ithaca, New York
Member since Nov 2010
1435 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 11:46 am to
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You seem sane. I’d love your opinion on the danger a biased press brings with it.


Are we talking in a space where you admit that Fox News and OAN have strong biases as well? If so, I'm happy to talk about the problems with MSNBC and CNN which are real and unfortunate. If not, I don't want to waste my time.

Are we talking in a space where media misinterpretation and hyperbole of science is dangerous, but not science as a whole? If so, I'm even happier. If not, I'm yet again disappointed.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36139 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 11:46 am to
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just like there are reasonable Democrats who understand Trump has done things that are positive.

Where are they? Trump could cure cancer and you'd have the majority of Democrats and the media object to it for some reason. The visceral hatred people have for a Gerald Ford Republican boggles my mind. And all because he isn't a career politician.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140630 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 11:50 am to
Absolutely. I don’t watch any of the mainstream channels any longer. Before I quit I did like the pure news/update portions of oann. Their talking heads were full of bias though.

But it’s not Fox and OANN doing all the division at the press conferences.
Posted by Microtiger
Ithaca, New York
Member since Nov 2010
1435 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 11:50 am to
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Do tell us any significant policy differences between any of the democratic presidential candidates and between any of their members of Congress. Tell about the big changes in the party's direction that all those fresh new moderates elected in 2018 have engineered. You really want to compare your entire fricking party to one message board?


What? There are profound differences between the ideologies of the candidates this year alone, and much more between the candidates and every single Democratic member of Congress. You're a joke if you think the entire party literally is in lock step and total agreement.

If a concerted move away from the center is something you perceive in Democrats, don't act like it hasn't happened equally in Republicans.

Posted by Microtiger
Ithaca, New York
Member since Nov 2010
1435 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 11:51 am to
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Where are they? Trump could cure cancer and you'd have the majority of Democrats and the media object to it for some reason. The visceral hatred people have for a Gerald Ford Republican boggles my mind. And all because he isn't a career politician.


Generally, they're not wasting time on Twitter yelling their average, middle-of-the-road opinions, and they're not exciting enough to put on TV. I hope you're not taking Twitter replies and extrapolating them to an entire party of millions of people. The most vocal Republicans on social media don't come off well, either, but I don't yell at my Republican grandparents for those idiots.
This post was edited on 4/24/20 at 12:04 pm
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140630 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 11:52 am to
You guys ran out HRC. That was not dumb enough so you are now running out a demented senior citizen.

A Trojan horse even. The eventual president will be whatever SJW pick that wants to replace him.

Oh lord. That’s the DNC right now.
Posted by Microtiger
Ithaca, New York
Member since Nov 2010
1435 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 11:57 am to
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But it’s not Fox and OANN doing all the division at the press conferences.


It's not in Fox's or OANN's best interests to do that right now while their viewership's team is in office, and yes, the left-wing questions have been ridiculous at the press conferences. If it were a Democrat in office it would be MSNBC lobbing softball questions and Fox coming in hard trying to get soundbites for their audience.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 11:58 am to
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Are we talking in a space where you admit that Fox News and OAN have strong biases as well? If so, I'm happy to talk about the problems with MSNBC and CNN which are real and unfortunate. If not, I don't want to waste my time.





Fox News isn't conservative anymore.

It's OAN vs. NBC , CBS , ABC , CNN and MSNBC , Facebook , Twitter and Instagram.

You Democrats have it made with the media.
Posted by Microtiger
Ithaca, New York
Member since Nov 2010
1435 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 11:59 am to
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You guys ran out HRC. That was not dumb enough so you are now running out a demented senior citizen.


The dumpster fire that was Hillary Clinton as a candidate and the huge number of liberals who did not support her were a big reason she didn't do as well as she was "supposed" to. The DNC is not the same as all Democratic voters. The Debbie Wasserman Schultz and DNC corruption memes were coming from both sides back then.
Posted by Microtiger
Ithaca, New York
Member since Nov 2010
1435 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:03 pm to
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Fox News isn't conservative anymore.


The pure news might be more center, but it's preposterous to say the opinion sections and the entire channel as a whole aren't aimed to conservative viewers. Their viewership is still overwhelmingly conservative and that is who they want to retain and sell ad space to. The right bias has been confirmed multiple times by Pew and others.
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
26784 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:06 pm to
Wow...a liberal camel....toting water for every single voting Democrat alive, dead, or illegal.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80358 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:18 pm to
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That election introduced Douche vs Turd into the lexicon


No, those were just the two largest write-in vote getters for the South Park Elementary School mascot names. PETA caused that.
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:22 pm to
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They aren’t embarrassed at being the party of the kkk or Jim Crowe....


Don't forget every Democrat voted against freeing slaves.
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