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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:37 pm to
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:37 pm to
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They’d be completely destroyed if we wanted to do it for whatever reason.



We possess the capability to destroy the entire world several times over if we wanted to, but that results in unacceptable losses. Destroying Iran by conventional means would also result in unacceptable losses - namely, global commerce.
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:39 pm to
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Are we the ones being attacked?



No, but at this moment, it looks like we are negotiating with a country that we could supposedly destroy whenever we want to return to the status-quo, or something close.
Posted by wackatimesthree
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:42 pm to
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I’m seeing the same people crying on this board about Trump threatening to bomb Iran into oblivion for no reason at all…..and are now bitching about Trump chickening out and that now Iran is going to be super powerful.

Just help me make it make sense. I just don’t see how both can be true at the same time but I’m willing to listen.


I've been asking the same stuff for two days.

Started my own thread about it today.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:42 pm to
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No, but at this moment, it looks like we are negotiating with a country that we could supposedly destroy whenever we want to return to the status-quo, or something close.


Which means we are not doing the same thing Iran is doing as you asked earlier.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:43 pm to
HOW IT STARTED: Strait of Hormuz was open, and Iran was not attacking Americans


Trump attacks a country that was no threat to the USA

MAkes some stuff go boom

Kills some key people and a bunch of civilians

Soldiers die



HOW IT'S GOING: Negotiated Strait of Hormuz open, and asked Iran to stop attacking Americans


WE WON!!!!!!!

right?
This post was edited on 4/7/26 at 8:45 pm
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:45 pm to
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But they know if we followed through on such a threat we lose whatever moral authority we have.


You’re really reaching for a point there.

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You think we're in control and hold all the cards. We don't.


Because of “muh moral authority”?

We do hold all of the cards.

If we wanted to keep bombing them….we would and there is nothing Iran can do to stop it.

If we did want to put 100,000 marines in their soil……we would and there is nothing Iran can do about it.
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:46 pm to
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Which means we are not doing the same thing Iran is doing as you asked earlier.



If the fact that they could have withstood what we gave them for a month and still come to the negotiating table with a far better outcome than what most would have given them at the beginning, how in the frick is that not resiliency?
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:46 pm to
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Trump attacks a country that was no threat to the USA




Yep. Iran. Never been a threat to the USA whatsoever….at any time.
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:47 pm to
The USA is demonstrably a much bigger threat to Iran than Iran to the USA.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:49 pm to
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Yep. Iran. Never been a threat to the USA whatsoever….at any time.
In 2026, before we attacked them completely unprovoked?

Yup
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:49 pm to
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In 2026,


Ah. New year; New Iran.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:50 pm to
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The USA is demonstrably a much bigger threat to Iran than Iran to the USA.


You’re continuing to disprove your own point.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:51 pm to
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If the fact that they could have withstood what we gave them for a month and still come to the negotiating table with a far better outcome than what most would have given them at the beginning,


There currently isn’t an outcome because they’re still negotiating.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:51 pm to
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Just help me make it make sense.


Because they are fricking morons. They bitched less with Obama and Biden in the WH.
This post was edited on 4/7/26 at 9:10 pm
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:51 pm to
So we should also attack Spain or Japan?

They were once threats to the USA
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:52 pm to
You’re really desperately reaching.
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:53 pm to
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You’re continuing to disprove your own point.



That's fair. Perhaps I should say that it is obvious that the USA is much more likely to take preemptive action against Iran than Iran to the USA, whereas Iran is able to effectively hold world markets hostage when they feel provoked. Maybe they didn't have that capability before and we missed the window.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:54 pm to
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whereas Iran is able to effectively hold world markets hostage


And we can effectively bomb them to undo said action.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:54 pm to
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You’re really desperately reaching.
Just consistently applying logic
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:54 pm to
Well bad logic is still logic so carry on.
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