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re: Hegseth better get busy!

Posted on 11/28/25 at 1:03 pm to
Posted by Rebel
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Posted on 11/28/25 at 1:03 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/28/25 at 1:03 pm to
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No, he can't.
Kelly is unique in that group because he did actually retire, and is on a pension. The others left service early as far as I can tell. Military retirement is subject to recall to active service. It is a well known issue for military members. There maybe legal questions regarding a recall and prosecution of actions Kelly took as a "civilian," but IMO, he'd be in serious trouble. He was incredibly stupid to pull this mess.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 11/28/25 at 1:12 pm to
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It is a well known issue for military members.
Of course retired military officers can be recalled to active duty in a time of emergency, like an impending war, but the military does not have the authority to prosecute civilians for any crime they commit as a civilian unrelated to their military service.

If the military could do that it would usurp our entire structure of law that the military is subjugated to civilian legal process.

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Can the military prosecute American civilians who have committed non-military crimes?

No, the military cannot prosecute American civilians for non-military crimes under normal circumstances, as civilians are typically subject to civilian law.

However, there are limited exceptions, such as during a declared war or in specific situations involving civilians who are accompanying, employed by, or married to the armed forces, and are stationed outside the continental United States.

In these cases, military courts may have jurisdiction.

For crimes committed on a military installation or federal land, civilian courts can prosecute, sometimes with the assistance of military legal personnel appointed as Special Assistant U.S. Attorneys.
This post was edited on 11/28/25 at 1:21 pm
Posted by lsugorilla
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Member since Sep 2009
6457 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 1:15 pm to
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Will you stop being a fig and spamming the thread.


Just pointing out the name calling and insults and hate.

It is in almost every post.

Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141333 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 1:17 pm to
We don’t need a hall monitor.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295342 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 1:19 pm to
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Is he sober yet?


Are you?
Posted by lsugorilla
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 11/28/25 at 1:21 pm to
Agree. Just responding to someone claiming I was brainwashed regarding name calling.

Who’s name calling. And who is brainwashed to it.
Posted by lsugorilla
PNW
Member since Sep 2009
6457 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 1:29 pm to
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Are you?


Hmm.

Holiday.
Hockey is on
Egg bowl is on
Texas v aTm up
Da bears fixing to play the eagles.
Shucking 6 dozen oysters with my boy.


Is anyone today?

(To those who are not drinking. I respect your choice)

Posted by roll to victory
Hoover, AL
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 11/28/25 at 1:52 pm to
He's a puppet, nothing more!!!. Trump has him by the balls and that's how he wants it.. We the People deserve a leader with a vision, only problem the leader would clash with Trump so you get what we got, an inexperienced pretty boy!!
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135429 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 8:37 pm to
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but the military does not have the authority to prosecute civilians for any crime they commit as a civilian unrelated to their military service.
Therein lies the rub. Kelly made this specifically about his military service.
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Member since Oct 2025
1558 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 8:41 pm to
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Hegseth better get busy! Every fricking day that the Sedition 6 and their puppeteer's are not in handcuffs and jailed is just one more day their treasonous rhetoric puts our Military in jeopardy.
If the Trump administration were a rational actor, nothing would come of this silly notion, because rational actors do not initiate court proceedings that they cannot conceivably win.

But Trump has long-established that he does not care in the slightest about filing and losing meritless court procedings. He may yet do it.
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Member since Oct 2025
1558 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 8:45 pm to
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He openly stated that "this administration is using troops against American citizens" which is patently and demonstrably false. He should 100% be recalled, court martialed and imprisoned for sedition. It's an actual call for insurrection, military coup and borderline treason.
It is not remotely any of those things, though he did arguably violate 18 USC 2387 (encouraging military insubordination). But that claim is so marginal that no civilian lawyer would pursue it, for fear of the sanctions for a meritless lawsuit.
Posted by GooseSix
Member since Jun 2012
21891 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 8:55 pm to
Time for being rational is over. You need to prepare yourself for that, especially if you are fricking muslim filth..
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 11/28/25 at 9:43 pm to
Posted by GooseSix
Member since Jun 2012
21891 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 9:44 pm to
Kill'em all...
Posted by vl100butch
Ridgeland, MS
Member since Sep 2005
36665 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 9:53 pm to
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Posted by vl100butch
Ridgeland, MS
Member since Sep 2005
36665 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 9:55 pm to
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Kelly retired in 2011 from the navy and is not in the military reserve.


I retired from the Army in 2007 and am still a part of the Retired Reserve.

Kelly is getting a pension, he's part of the Retired Reserve and can be recalled to active duty and court martialed.
Posted by Translator
Member since May 2025
431 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 10:03 pm to
suggested updates for first list:

Nazi
racist
xenophobe
homophobe
misogynist

I might be missing a few
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