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re: Has The Covid Vaccine Hurt The Vaccine Industry As A Whole?
Posted on 12/15/23 at 10:55 am to STEVED00
Posted on 12/15/23 at 10:55 am to STEVED00
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CDC could’ve pushed healthy lifestyle changes to combat Covid to include diet, exercise, and good ole exposure to the sun which would have paid massive dividends; however, they chose to tell people to shelter in place with their TVs and snacks which drastically made their health worse and made them more susceptible to Covid.
That's a terrible strategy to control a pathogenic agent. It is a great strategy to combat chronic illness. But given the rates at which we can actually get patients to actually implement lifestyle modifications, it would have been the same as doing nothing.
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Posted on 12/15/23 at 11:17 am to crazy4lsu
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That's a terrible strategy to control a pathogenic agent. It is a great strategy to combat chronic illness.
Is it though when the pathogenic agent was pretty inconsequential to the vast majority of the population and it was clear that the NI obtained was also pretty damn good to prevent further infection? Also can’t we also make the argument that the response strung this out way longer than it should’ve been. We knew early on thar this virus was essentially NO RISK to the healthy under 50 population.
We allowed people free access to Home Depot and Walmart with a paper mask and hand sanitizer but forbid people to go to national parks, golfing, walking in the park, fishing, camping, etc.
This post was edited on 12/15/23 at 11:21 am
Posted on 12/15/23 at 11:24 am to crazy4lsu
I hope you can see that ooga's argument went full Death Star on yours.
Posted on 12/15/23 at 11:29 am to STEVED00
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Is it though when the pathogenic agent was pretty inconsequential to the vast majority of the population and it was clear that the NI obtained was also pretty damn good to prevent further infection?
Yes. At the population level, a pathogen that has a CFR above 0.1% is serious. And there are still patients presenting with sequalae to COVID infection, as NI didn't provide complete protection against newer strains.
I'm confused as to why people think this strategy would have been successful. Lifestyle modifications are the first-line interventions for several indications, and patients, broadly speaking, are generally non-adherent. I'm not seeing the logic as to why it would have worked in this one case when it doesn't seem to work in chronic illness.
Posted on 12/15/23 at 12:22 pm to crazy4lsu
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I'm confused as to why people think this strategy would have been successful.
Because almost every idea offered up by you and your business partners in the Government was an absolute disaster, or "retarded" idea that failed miserably.
That continuing failure caused people to seek outside the box solutions since the box was being controlled by nefarious idiots trying to make a buck.
The fact that you and your business partners in the Govt. fought RABIDLY against anyone who DARED not treat their opinions as sacrosanct, going so far as to THREATEN peoples' lives and livelihoods is all the proof we need that a great many of you in the Medical Industry were no good pieces of shite out to control and make a buck.
This post was edited on 12/15/23 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 12/15/23 at 12:25 pm to crazy4lsu
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That's a terrible strategy to control a pathogenic agent.
Do you understand the concept of fighting a war on multiple fronts?
No one is arguing that doing situps would make this flu go away or completely "control" it in any way.
This would be PART of the solution, a part you and your business partners in the Govt. fought tooth and nail against pushing for fear of alienating fat azzes who would ignore great advice.
quote:
it would have been the same as doing nothing.
In other words, it would have been at least as successful as the failed "retard" strategies offered up by you and your business partners in the Govt.
Posted on 12/15/23 at 2:00 pm to crazy4lsu
quote:
That's a terrible strategy to control a pathogenic agent. It is a great strategy to combat chronic illness. But given the rates at which we can actually get patients to actually implement lifestyle modifications, it would have been the same as doing nothing.
Like telling a patient to come back when their lips turn blue? I'm surprised you guys didn't punt with a prescription for leaches or a consult with the local barber for bloodletting - but you had nothing. Not even Sudafed.
Posted on 12/15/23 at 2:20 pm to oogabooga68
“It made me realize how dumb NPs were”
My wife is a NP and she worked in a clinic with several NP’s and a host of RN’s,LPN’s and various other employees.
The Drs put tremendous pressure on all the employees to take the Covid shot.the majority did but some refused.Those that refused were older nurses that had been in the medical field a long time and saw how many times new meds and such were failures and some times dangerous.
I have a cousin that has 2 sons and a dtr-in-law that are Drs.Dtr-in-law is an infectious disease Dr. at OLOL,Dr.Catherine (Fauci) O’Neal is her boss.
Cousins husband was spouting off about people that were too stupid and ignorant to take the Covid vax.
I,of course,had to tell him I didn’t take it.I also went on to tell him I wasn’t being a Guinea pig because no one knew if the MRNA was safe,I don’t care what anyone says.Also told him I had ivermectin on standby if I got Covid.
He got severely pissed and left in a huff.
My wife told me I should have just kept my mouth shut
Cousin and husband may have changed their tune,they both got Covid twice.
Point is,don’t point fingers at NPs.Majority of Drs.we’re pushing that crap.
My wife is a NP and she worked in a clinic with several NP’s and a host of RN’s,LPN’s and various other employees.
The Drs put tremendous pressure on all the employees to take the Covid shot.the majority did but some refused.Those that refused were older nurses that had been in the medical field a long time and saw how many times new meds and such were failures and some times dangerous.
I have a cousin that has 2 sons and a dtr-in-law that are Drs.Dtr-in-law is an infectious disease Dr. at OLOL,Dr.Catherine (Fauci) O’Neal is her boss.
Cousins husband was spouting off about people that were too stupid and ignorant to take the Covid vax.
I,of course,had to tell him I didn’t take it.I also went on to tell him I wasn’t being a Guinea pig because no one knew if the MRNA was safe,I don’t care what anyone says.Also told him I had ivermectin on standby if I got Covid.
He got severely pissed and left in a huff.
My wife told me I should have just kept my mouth shut
Cousin and husband may have changed their tune,they both got Covid twice.
Point is,don’t point fingers at NPs.Majority of Drs.we’re pushing that crap.
Posted on 12/15/23 at 3:38 pm to LuckyTiger
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I assume it will take time to see the data trends on this question but
Who can believe Data produced by any branch of the US Govt.
When enough folks refuse to take the "Jab" how long before the Gov't Labs produce another deadly disease and let it loose on the population.
Posted on 12/15/23 at 3:43 pm to NC_Tigah
Maybe polio and small pox vaccine
reserves should be destroyed. That’ll
show ‘em.
reserves should be destroyed. That’ll
show ‘em.
Posted on 12/15/23 at 3:46 pm to LSUA 75
quote:
“It made me realize how dumb NPs were”
quote:
Point is,don’t point fingers at NPs.Majority of Drs.we’re pushing that crap.
Awesome....now tell me something:
Why are you attributing something to me I didn't say?
Posted on 12/15/23 at 3:46 pm to VOR
quote:
Maybe polio and small pox vaccine
reserves should be destroyed. That’ll
show ‘em.
You should frankly be more worried about AIDS and Monkey Pox than Covid....
Posted on 12/15/23 at 3:47 pm to LakeCharles
quote:
but you had nothing. Not even Sudafed.
Oh no, they had SOMETHING.
It just turns out that "something" was garbage and was making a lot of folks rich....
Posted on 12/15/23 at 4:19 pm to VOR
quote:
Maybe polio and small pox vaccine
reserves should be destroyed. That’ll
show ‘em.
Show who, what?
Posted on 12/15/23 at 6:04 pm to VOR
I thought CntLSU was going to win "Dumbest Post In Thread Award", then you show up and snatch it away from him.
Posted on 12/15/23 at 6:41 pm to oogabooga68
oogabooga-I didn’t attribute the statement about NPs being dumb to you.That was a statement the8008bass made.
I think you’ve been pretty spot-on with your posts.Particularly enjoyed you making a fool out of that crazy4lsu cuck.
I think you’ve been pretty spot-on with your posts.Particularly enjoyed you making a fool out of that crazy4lsu cuck.
Posted on 12/15/23 at 7:04 pm to oogabooga68
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Because almost every idea offered up by you and your business partners in the Government was an absolute disaster, or "retarded" idea that failed miserably.
What?
quote:
That continuing failure caused people to seek outside the box solutions since the box was being controlled by nefarious idiots trying to make a buck.
Lifestyle modifications is the first-line intervention for several chronic illnesses. It seems like you are just copying our solutions for pathogenic agents. Maybe try some out of the box thinking for once.
Posted on 12/15/23 at 7:05 pm to LakeCharles
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Like telling a patient to come back when their lips turn blue? I'm surprised you guys didn't punt with a prescription for leaches or a consult with the local barber for bloodletting - but you had nothing. Not even Sudafed.
I'm not even sure what this is a response to.
Posted on 12/15/23 at 7:30 pm to LuckyTiger
Absolutely it has. I used to get a flu shot annually, but I have not done so ever since this happened.
quote:Frankly, I don’t trust these frickers.
Military base accidentally gives COVID shots to 3 people seeking other vaccines
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