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Gun Violence and Mental Health

Posted on 8/5/19 at 10:45 am
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 8/5/19 at 10:45 am
Our country has a Mental Health problem that has been ignored far too long. It's not a Republican problem or a Dem problem. It's an American problem that is being ignored. Louisiana has 1 state mental hospital. Some states have 0. We can all argue about Gun rights buy mental health is what needs to be discussed.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24692 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 10:50 am to
quote:

Our country has a Mental Health problem that has been ignored far too long. It's not a Republican problem or a Dem problem. It's an American problem that is being ignored. Louisiana has 1 state mental hospital. Some states have 0. We can all argue about Gun rights buy mental health is what needs to be discussed.


About everyone I know is on some sort of mental therapy drug for depression, anxiety, etc.

People need to just get over themselves. Stress has been around forever. And actually, stress today can't be as bad as it was decades ago. Most of us have it pretty damn good. People stressing out over spending too much money that they don't have on crap they don't need, to impress other people.

People keep their faces in front of screens all day. Inundating their brains with crap.

Put down the phones, turn off the computer, go take a nature walk. You're stress will decrease.
This post was edited on 8/5/19 at 10:52 am
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
5844 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 10:59 am to
i was referring to Mental illness not stress related. It's seems like every time we have a mass shooting at the end of the day the problem is the red flags that are missed that are related to mental illness.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139780 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 11:09 am to
Social media is a huge issue. A lot of research needs to be done about the long term effects.

Another thing I've noticed is that parents are now going to dinner with their toddlers and instead of coloring with them at the table they pull out the kids iPad to shut him up and entertain him.

That can't be wise.

What are we creating by doing that?
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14478 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 11:10 am to
Agree, but you cannot "fix" mental health with an easy solution. Hell, I am not sure you can fix it with a tough solution.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72871 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 11:10 am to
We are creating future monsters.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 11:11 am to
quote:

Our country has a Mental Health problem that has been ignored far too long. It's not a Republican problem or a Dem problem. It's an American problem that is being ignored. Louisiana has 1 state mental hospital. Some states have 0. We can all argue about Gun rights buy mental health is what needs to be discussed.



Every last one of you posting this silliness suck enormous balls at statistics.

Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 11:13 am to
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i was referring to Mental illness not stress related. It's seems like every time we have a mass shooting at the end of the day the problem is the red flags that are missed that are related to mental illness.



Well. Um. They were MISSED. As in, unlike tummy aches, people who are crazy don't typically go and seek treatment. They just plan their crazy.

You basically undermined your own point. The average person isn't going to spot these people until AFTER the crazy.

Then, the Monday morning QBing is always out in force
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171035 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 11:13 am to
You're not wrong, but there's a difference between what you're talking about and people with untreated schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, etc etc that go far beyond normal daily stress.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45163 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 11:13 am to
Agreed.

We have a mental illness epidemic in the US.
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
7310 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 11:14 am to
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What are we creating by doing that?


I dont disagree. That said, crayons and coloring books in a restaurant are just a prior generation's ipads, meant to placate and distract. Is it really that much different?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139780 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 11:16 am to
Yes. The creative side of the brain was working and the parents usually colored with the child to help entertain them. Interaction with the child still happened at the table. Now, I don't see that. I see the child being distracted by tech so that the parents don't have to interact with him.

Are you really young?
This post was edited on 8/5/19 at 11:21 am
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 11:16 am to
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table they pull out the kids iPad to shut him up and entertain him.

That can't be wise.

What are we creating by doing that?



I see this a lot too and parents afraid to discipline their child either because they don't want the kids to dislike them or they are afraid to have child protection services called.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 11:19 am to
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I dont disagree. That said, crayons and coloring books in a restaurant are just a prior generation's ipads, meant to placate and distract. Is it really that much different?


The difference I've seen is this.

When I was young, if I was an a-hole, my neighbor friends wouldn't play with me. If I was socially unacceptable in my behavior, I received pretty much immediate feedback AND, I had no plan B options for continuing that behavior and still getting to do the things I enjoyed with others.

Alas, your XBox doesn't care if you're an a-hole. And, even if you piss off everyone in online multi-player games, you're gonna take a LOOOOOOOOONG time before you run out of new people who will play with you.

There's also another element. If I called someone fat when I was 12, even if at that moment, I didn't care about their reaction..........I still SAW their reaction. I was impacted visually by the effects of my words and/or behavior.

Today. If I'm 12, I can call people fat(or whatever) 200 times per day and get zero human feedback on it. Maybe EVER. But, at the least, significantly delayed.

I think it helps breed a disconnect from the human interaction experience that is exceedingly hard to quantify and yet, I know it almost the moment I see it in someone.

I can spot a "vidiot" in an amazingly short window of time. If you ask me how, I'm gonna admit, I'm not sure. But, the characteristics are there.

I'm not anti-tech. I love me some tech. I just think we've got to find a way to not lose ourselves in it.
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
5844 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 11:20 am to
but people who are "crazy" normally have family and friends that have noticed this condition and do not take the proper steps to insure they get help. Your right most people with mental illness do not like to seek help.
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
7310 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 11:22 am to
I dont do screens at dinner with my kids, but was offering an argument ive heard in defense of the screen time at restaurants.

I am 40. i dont consider myself really young.
Posted by SOKAL
Member since May 2018
4124 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 11:23 am to
Serious questions:

What is the psychological diagnosis that predicts someone is going to become a mass shooter?

If we don't know that, where do we draw the line?

Anyone who has been prescribed meds for anxiety? Depression?

The devil really is in the details, and if we are not careful we are going to open the door for a lot of people who pose no threat to have their rights taken away on the word of some social worker who graduated from SJW University.

Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 11:23 am to
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but people who are "crazy" normally have family and friends that have noticed this condition and do not take the proper steps to insure they get help.
Which, yeah. Pretty much means that having the help available isn't terribly useful.

That's my point. Generally speaking. It's unfortunate. But, crazy almost always "does" before it's "seen".

Before that, it just seems like they're maybe a little weird.

Hell. LOTS of people said they knew Ted Bundy was an odd duck AFTER he got caught.

Before that, he was just this slightly eccentric dude who frankly, a lot of women thought was attractive and looked past it.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139780 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 11:27 am to
I agree with you.



Screen time at a restaurant, to me, idicates that screen time at home is prevalent.

I have a feeling, no proof, that kids are suffering from tech overload including social media.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14478 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 11:29 am to
quote:

What is the psychological diagnosis that predicts someone is going to become a mass shooter?

If we don't know that, where do we draw the line?


Let elected politicians do it, duh.
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