re: Greenland & Antarctic ice loss

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And don't be obtuse, we're talking about the last hundred years.

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The term you used was "Global Warming".
The reason I make the distinction is warmists generally ignore inconveniences of preanthropogenic cyclical temp fluctuation. Yet, we know those fluctuations occurred . . . inconvenient to CO2 warmist theory as that fact might be.

Ask a warmist why the Earth has cyclically warmed and cooled over regular spans, and you'll likely hear the canned "because of CO2" meme. Makes no sense of course. There are no models accounting for a cyclically repetitive q0.12ma CO2 mediated terrestrial input. But, be that as it may, anyone wanting to discuss it as related to CO2 warmist theory is labeled #flatearthsociety.

Warmists need to ignore well-known regularity of climate change over the past mega-annum. They have to focus exclusively on weather patterns of the 20th century, and beyond. Any redirection or questioning is deemed #flatearthsociety. Amirite? That is the moniker, right? . . . #flatearthsociety?

Instead of addressing the real concern, that in light of ice core discoveries, we are likely on the precipice of long term global cooling and reglaciation, warmists want to take the US back to a pixiedust age of windmills and sailboats, while claiming respiration products as pollutants.

Were warmists honest brokers, they'd go all out exploring active methods of atmospheric CO2 reduction. To the contrary, those efforts when undertaken, are deemed reckless. Instead, all warmists do is bitch about reducing energy production. There is no honesty to it.

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You mean how the argument was changed from man made global warming (what the hoax argument was about), to just global warming, to climate change (what the "nothing we can do about it" argument is about?)

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"Climate change" has been used interchangeably with "global warming" for pretty much ever.

1988: Hansen gives his famous "global warming" speech to Congress
1988: The IPCC is established (guess what the CC stands for!)

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Is it just me or are the deniers shifting their argument from "its a hoax" to "there's nothing we can do about it"?

Interesting....

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that seems to be the direction

Yep.

Again, if they want to keep arguing down this path, show me a single person that has ever argued that the earth has never warmed.

I'm still waiting.

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The reason I make the distinction is warmists generally ignore inconveniences of preanthropogenic cyclical temp fluctuation. Yet, we know they occurred.

Ask a warmist why the Earth has cyclically warmed and cooled over regular spans, and you'll likely hear the canned "because of CO2" meme. Makes no sense of course. There are no models accounting for a cyclically repetitive q0.12ma CO2 mediated terrestrial input.

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If by "ignore them" you mean "write extensively about them in the IPCC" and if by "canned because of CO2 meme" you mean "Milankovitch cycles" then yes.

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Maybe you should read what the "warmists" actually say instead of what "skeptics" say they say.

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only talking about the increase in energy cost and not talking about the corresponding decrease in labor cost.

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Please do elucidate. Please.

Demand for oil goes down as the United States forces the economy into use of Chinese solarpanels and windmills. Meanwhile, the Chinese economy explodes with its newfound inexpensive fossil fuel opportunities.

In that environment, as the US increases cost of its own energy, costs of its labor go down.

I think you're right.
So, I'm going to leave you with the economic standard that the chief way to drive down cost of labor in a free market is to increase unemployment.

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It wasn't my assertion, it was yours.

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so now it's word games.

You also need to stop being obtuse, you know we're talking about. You can't change the definition to make your goofy point.

good grief, I change from grade-school to nursery school.

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No.
By ignore, I mean ignore.

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When is the next ice age coming? And don't say "soon." In years.

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You also need to stop being obtuse, you know we're talking about. You can't change the definition to make your goofy point.

good grief, I change from grade-school to nursery school.

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I'm not making a point besides holding you accountable for your arguments.

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You also need to stop being obtuse, you know we're talking about. You can't change the definition to make your goofy point.

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What definition am I changing?