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re: Green Party removed from WI and PA ballots

Posted on 9/18/20 at 12:53 pm to
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
13104 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 12:53 pm to
WI and PA Supreme Courts ruled that Green Party didn't follow the guidelines for their applications, so they were removed from the ballots.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98800 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 12:55 pm to
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so they are sticklers for the rules here,

but loosy goosy about mail in ballot signatures?


BOOM
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 12:55 pm to
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WI and PA Supreme Courts ruled that Green Party didn't follow the guidelines for their applications, so they were removed from the ballots.
You are mistaken. The Wisconsin court did not reach the merits of the case.
quote:

a majority of the Wisconsin supreme court declined to rule on the merits the Wisconsin Election Commission’s decision to deny ballot access, but the majority concluded it was too late to reprint the ballots without causing election chaos.

“Even if we would ultimately determine that the petitioners’ claims are meritorious,” the majority ruled, “given their delay in asserting their rights, we would be unable to provide meaningful relief without completely upsetting the election.”
As an aside, my last two posts come from the National Review.
This post was edited on 9/18/20 at 12:58 pm
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24656 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 12:57 pm to
If you go back and look at instances of voter fraud, check out what happens to the green party. Typically, their votes sky rocket in close districts taking votes away from the Republican candidate. The left doesnt steal them, they just move them to a party that doesnt do anything.


I am ok with this.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 12:57 pm to
Could either of these go to the Supreme Court.

I'm talking very high level here but so much shite has been flung in regards to covid that these specific issues in both states should be challenged.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19346 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 12:58 pm to
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The Wisconsin Elections Commission had split 3–3 along partisan lines on the matter of denying ballot access to the Green Party because of a technicality — two different addresses were given for the party’s vice presidential nominee, who moved during the pandemic.

On Thursday, Pennsylvania’s supreme court disqualified the Green Party over another technicality — that state filing papers were not submitted in person


Both of these are absurd. Clearly the Green Party rep didn't want to catch COVID by submitting the paperwork in person.
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
13104 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 12:58 pm to
Doubtful either of these reaches Supreme Court. Post election though, you can bet many cases end up at SCOTUS.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 1:01 pm to
How USSC takes up cases in October this seems like something that should be expedited?

If they don't take this up but take up other cases affecting the election seems like a double standard?

Not that I think the court is actually principled or non partisan but it would just reaffirm my thoughts.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 1:01 pm to
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Could either of these go to the Supreme Court.
Appealing to SCOTUS from a state supreme court ruling is ... time-consuming and cumbersome. SCOTUS may eventually hear these issues, though even that is unlikely, but it is even-more unlikely that it will happen before November.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18073 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 1:06 pm to
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two different addresses were given for the party’s vice presidential nominee, who moved during the pandemic.


I don’t understand why that’s important or relevant, but a simple email could have cleared that up.
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Pennsylvania’s supreme court disqualified the Green Party over another technicality — that state filing papers were not submitted in person.


dimocratix demand universal mail-in voting because it’s simply too dangerous during a pandemic for voters to make it to the polls, but they demand the Green Party take deadly chances to file in person.
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 1:07 pm to
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What's the reasoning?



To protect democracy.

I'm not kidding.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
24571 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 1:35 pm to
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two different addresses were given for the party’s vice presidential nominee, who moved during the pandemic.




Ironically they are fine with having different signatures on ballots
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
3886 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 1:57 pm to

I case anyone is wondering about 2016 numbers:

PA: Green Party got 50,000 votes (Trumps margin of victory was 44,000 votes) - this could have conceivably tipped the state to Hillary

WI: Green Party got 31,000 votes (Trumps margin of victory was 23,000 votes) - this could have conceivably tipped the state to Hillary.

Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
6507 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 6:04 pm to
If you really want to trigger some libs, don’t tell them you’re voting for Trump, tell them you’re voting 3rd party or write-in. It sends their panties straight up their arse.
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