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re: Graphic video shows troopers stun, hit and drag black man before his death
Posted on 5/30/21 at 3:18 pm to Kentucker
Posted on 5/30/21 at 3:18 pm to Kentucker
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One of my classmates did a study of why cops are so hyped up after a chase. Seems their adrenaline is at max and promotes the fight part of the fight or flight syndrome. The longer the chase, the more stoked on adrenaline are the cops. Applies to female cops as well.
So what you're saying is that it's science that cops tend to over react and use excessive force after a chase.
This board does love science.
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Posted on 5/30/21 at 3:22 pm to CDawson
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Because you can’t.
No, because they are irrelevant. It's like me saying that both the cops and the victim in this case are more likely to die of heart disease than either one of them killing the other (which is also a fact that you can't refute), therefore this killing is justified. It's just an irrelevant non sequitur. Either this guy threatened the cops and forced them to kill him or he didn't...anything else is irrelevant.
Are you so stupid that you can't see that?
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Then again, his facts are probably racist too, right?
Nope. Just irrelevant.
Posted on 5/30/21 at 3:24 pm to CDawson
I watched the entire video. I have zero problems with the officers actions.
Dude appears to die from excited delirium. He didn’t die from the cops. He died in route to the hospital. All actions from the video I’ve seen by the cops were 100% justified from the perps behavior.
Dude appears to die from excited delirium. He didn’t die from the cops. He died in route to the hospital. All actions from the video I’ve seen by the cops were 100% justified from the perps behavior.
This post was edited on 5/30/21 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 5/30/21 at 3:28 pm to wackatimesthree
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o what you're saying is that it's science that cops tend to over react and use excessive force after a chase.
It’s definitely science. As I mentioned, even female officers experience it. That poor cop who recently pulled her gun on a perp instead of her taser was experiencing classic adrenaline-influenced decision making. She went completely through the act of drawing and firing before she realized her mistake.
Now she’s being prosecuted, after she resigned. Should she be? Hell no. The perp was the one who instigated the fight by running. It was his fault. He won’t be prosecuted, though. He dead.
Posted on 5/30/21 at 3:31 pm to CDawson
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And if you watch that video and conclude that the suspect complied you are disingenuous, and intellectually dishonest.
The perp refused to comply after leading police on a 15 minute high speed chase where he showed zero regard for human life. Blowing through stop lights, driving on wrong side of the road and having to be tazed multiple times to get him to exit car and be handcuffed.
But when you’re wrong, scream racist. That’s what the filth in our country does these days.
Actually, I find you to be disingenuous for acting as though there was some big reveal on the full 46 minute video that would change a person's impression.
"Watch the full video, this short one was edited to maximize outrage."
There was literally nothing on the full video—not one thing—that changed the framing of this event. You just didn't think anyone would actually watch it, so...might as well make the claim.
Also, I think you're disingenuous for claiming that the guy resisted arrest when he clearly didn't. They literally either beat or tased the guy to death (and the suppressed autopsy report said that).
Yes, he was slow to obey commands.
While he was being tased and beaten. To death.
Are you a complete moron?
And for the 3rd or 4th time I am pointing out that one of the commands was impossible for him to even comply with.
Yes, he was a public menace and should have been stopped. That doesn't mean that the cops get to torture him to death when they catch him.
Posted on 5/30/21 at 3:32 pm to Kentucker
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Now she’s being prosecuted, after she resigned. Should she be? Hell no.
So you're saying no one should be charged with negligent homicide?
Or just cops should get a free pass?
Posted on 5/30/21 at 3:33 pm to Mrtommorrow1987
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All actions from the video I’ve seen by the cops were 100% justified from the perps behavior.
Even the one where they tase him for not putting his right arm behind his back, which he couldn't due to the fact that a 300 lb fat cop was lying on top of it?
You guys are a joke.
Posted on 5/30/21 at 3:34 pm to BuckyCheese
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So you're saying no one should be charged with negligent homicide?
Or just cops should get a free pass?
I think what he's saying is that the guy was black, and black people in general commit a lot of crimes, so what the hell?
That's what I'm getting from this discussion.
Posted on 5/30/21 at 4:45 pm to wackatimesthree
They are ripping at his arm and Green refuses to let it go behind him. I have no issues with him being taser in the scenario hoping he gives up.
This post was edited on 5/30/21 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 5/30/21 at 4:45 pm to Mrtommorrow1987
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excited delirium
Oh look. It’s a cop.
Posted on 5/30/21 at 4:46 pm to the808bass
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Oh look. It’s a cop.
Nope. I’ve seen at least 4 guys die of excited delirium in my career while I’ve treated them. I’m not a cop.
Posted on 5/30/21 at 4:51 pm to wackatimesthree
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So you're saying no one should be charged with negligent homicide?
Or just cops should get a free pass?
I think what he's saying is that the guy was black, and black people in general commit a lot of crimes, so what the hell?
That's what I'm getting from this discussion.
While that plays into it for some possibly, it is more the "comply or die" Bootlicker mentality that so many here have. Makes little difference what color the perp is. If you don't instantly comply with any order the cop has every right to shoot/kill you in their world. It's seen in every one of these threads.
Will be interesting to see the reactions when they come for their guns.
Posted on 5/30/21 at 4:56 pm to wackatimesthree
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wackatimesthree
fricking retard
Posted on 5/30/21 at 5:00 pm to Mrtommorrow1987
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Nope. I’ve seen at least 4 guys die of excited delirium in my career while I’ve treated them. I’m not a cop.
Anybody reasonably defending a cop is a “cop” according to these idiots. Right, left, white, black, pro-cop, anti-cop. Even though the poster has seen things these fools have never seen be caused they work at Lowes.
Posted on 5/30/21 at 5:11 pm to Mrtommorrow1987
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I’ve seen at least 4 guys die of excited delirium in my career while I’ve treated them. I’m not a cop.
Fair enough. I’m sure the DSM or ICD has codes for excited delirium.
Posted on 5/30/21 at 5:48 pm to L.A.
A lot left out of that story. No mention of the 115 mph chase.
Posted on 5/30/21 at 5:50 pm to AtticusOSullivan
quote:Ashli Babbitt
Play stupid games....
If you're going to take this approach then at least be consistent.
This post was edited on 5/30/21 at 5:54 pm
Posted on 5/30/21 at 5:54 pm to cyarrr
quote:How fast is fast enough to be dragged around and beaten after you've been cuffed?
A lot left out of that story. No mention of the 115 mph chase.
Posted on 5/30/21 at 6:05 pm to the808bass
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Fair enough. I’m sure the DSM or ICD has codes for excited delirium.
Dudes coming with HRs of 150 plus from drug use and fighting. Their hearts stop from the excitement. Their body can not handle the stress and they die. I don’t know what to tell you. We label it as cardiac arrest but no one causes it except their own actions. Benadryl/Haldol/Ativan is usually the only thing that saves these people.
This post was edited on 5/30/21 at 6:07 pm
Posted on 5/30/21 at 6:11 pm to Pecker
I was pointing out the bias in the article.
From my observation of the video, the police used excessive force, but the guy was also not exactly compliant.
I’m sure adrenaline and emotions were running high for all involved. Not making an excuse for the police, let the chips fall as they may, but it’s not as clear cut as some in here seem to believe.
By the way, I agree with you about Ashley Babbit.
From my observation of the video, the police used excessive force, but the guy was also not exactly compliant.
I’m sure adrenaline and emotions were running high for all involved. Not making an excuse for the police, let the chips fall as they may, but it’s not as clear cut as some in here seem to believe.
By the way, I agree with you about Ashley Babbit.
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