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re: Governor Landry pushes for use of public funds for private or home schools

Posted on 5/17/24 at 10:26 am to
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29716 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 10:26 am to
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But I can definitely compare it to public schools in the parish, and I can without a doubt say it’s a better education than the public schools. Much better standard test scores, ACT and SAT, college acceptance rates and graduation rates.

This doesn’t prove the quality of education.
So actual results don’t prove quality of education?
Posted by CreoleTigerEsq
Noneya
Member since Nov 2007
613 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 10:26 am to
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What a stupid comment.


Yeah. Sure, Jan.

East Baton Rouge Parish was under litigation in one of the longest federal school desegregation cases in the nation. After desegregation and school busing, somehow many private academies started to spring up in the 60's, 70's, and 80's. I take it these private schools started to spring up because all of a sudden, schools that had existed for years under de jure segregation, became piss poor?

I don't agree. Some of the same people decrying how horrible the schools have become are (not ironically), the same people who fled from them in the first place. If enough people flee from something that at one time worked, what will be the quality of the schools if you place primarily poor people in them?

... and before you respond, consider that I have friends who send their children to Dunham, U High, Parkview, and Catholic.

Now, if you'd like to actually answer my comment, here's that comment, again.

Normally, vouchers act as a way to funnel money to, at best, C, D, or F private Christian schools. In Baton Rouge, I can guarantee that Dunham, Episcopal, Parkview Baptist, U High, St. Joseph's Academy, or Catholic are not accepting vouchers.

So, any retort on why Dunham, Episcopal, Parkview Baptist, U High, St. Joseph's Academy, or Catholic don't accept vouchers?
This post was edited on 5/17/24 at 10:44 am
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27876 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 10:28 am to
That school is smart. If the money goes to you, then maybe.....I would be comfortable if they gave you a voucher. You deposit it in your account and then you pay. But you and I KNOW that government would never allow this. They would want to track the money.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50432 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 10:28 am to
So you think kids who are physically or sexually abused, miss more than ten days of school a year, are homeless or have 7 siblings living at home can score just as well as anyone else if they go to the school you went to in Lafayette?
This post was edited on 5/17/24 at 10:29 am
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73045 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 10:28 am to
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What would be a better response to “where do I live?”


The question was rhetorical. I was pointing out the half-assed assumption you made. If you were intellectually honest, you'd have accepted that it was a stupid thing to say and you'd correct the behavior.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23298 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 10:29 am to
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This is a handout


No
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261964 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 10:30 am to
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Normally, vouchers act as a way to funnel money to, at best, C, D, or F private Christian schools.


How are these urchins doing in public school?
Posted by lsuguy84
CO
Member since Feb 2009
20106 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 10:30 am to
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I want tax credits for what I personally contribute to the police system and fire department. I don’t use those services.


Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50432 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 10:31 am to
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So, any retort on why Dunham, Episcopal, Parkview Baptist, U High, or Catholic don't accept vouchers?


Don’t hold your breath. We all know why they don’t.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37600 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 10:31 am to
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4cubbies


Looney tunes
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50432 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 10:31 am to
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How are these urchins doing in public school?


Data shows they performed better at traditional schools than voucher schools.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29716 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 10:32 am to
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So you think kids who are physically or sexually abused, miss more than ten days of school a year, are homeless or have 7 siblings living at home can score just as well as anyone else if they go to the school you went to in Lafayette?
Why not?

School might be the only stable thing in their life.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68441 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 10:33 am to
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 People aren't avoiding East Baton Rouge Parish public schools to avoid the poors
I don't live in EBR, but I do send my kids to private school and half the reason is peer group. I don't want them around people who will simply start massive fights in the hallways, carry about with a shifty attitude about education, cause trouble and disruptions in the classrooms and inject a criminal element into the environment. And, I live in a high majority caucasian area, so it isn't about race, it's about parental involvement and expectations for their kids.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23298 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 10:33 am to
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You really get this upset when someone has the audacity to have a different opinion than you?


Different isn't the same as objectively retarded.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50432 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 10:34 am to
Have you ever read about how trauma affects brain development? Or how ACES affect physical and mental health outcomes?
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29716 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 10:34 am to
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So, any retort on why Dunham, Episcopal, Parkview Baptist, U High, or Catholic don't accept vouchers?


Don’t hold your breath. We all know why they don’t.
I don’t know why, could you please enlighten us?
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23298 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 10:35 am to
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vouchers act as a way to funnel money to


And you wonder why no one can take you seriously.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261964 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 10:36 am to
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So actual results don’t prove quality of education?


Theyre trying to justify the sky rocketing expense of public education, which is little more than a day prison for kids, and a job creator for low achieving women.

Its getting impossible to justify the cost of education in this country.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50432 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 10:36 am to
this has been objectively proven to be true.

Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29716 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 10:36 am to
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Have you ever read about how trauma affects brain development? Or how ACES affect physical and mental health outcomes?
So, leaving them in a dysfunctional public school is going to help them?
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