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Government tyrants LOSE in case against cattle rancher Bundy--

Posted on 1/9/18 at 7:43 pm
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 1/9/18 at 7:43 pm
It is unbelievable that the US government would do what they did to this rancher.

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Bundy, a 71-year old Nevadan rancher, his sons, and his supporters were involved in an armed standoff with the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) beginning in 2014 and stemming from decades of unpaid cattle grazing fees and restrictions. The Bundys have long claimed the feds were on a vendetta against them, and 3,300 pages of documents the Justice Department wrongfully concealed from their lawyers provides smoking guns that buttressed their case.

The feds belatedly turned over multiple threat assessments, which revealed that the Bundys were not violent or dangerous.

A whistleblowing memo by BLM chief investigator Larry Wooten charges that BLM chose "the most intrusive, oppressive, large-scale and militaristic trespass cattle (seizure) possible'' against Bundy. He also cited a "widespread pattern of bad judgment, lack of discipline, incredible bias, unprofessionalism and misconduct, as well as likely policy, ethical and legal violations" by BLM officials in the case. BLM agents even "bragged about roughing up Dave Bundy, grinding his face into the ground and Dave Bundy having little bits of gravel stuck in his face'' while he was videotaping federal agents. Wooten also stated that anti-Mormon prejudice pervaded BLM's crackdown.

The feds charged the Bundys with conspiracy in large part because the ranchers summoned militia to defend them after they claimed that FBI snipers had surrounded their ranch. Justice Department lawyers scoffed at this claim in prior trials involving the standoff, but newly-released documents confirm that snipers were in place prior to the Bundys' call for help.


I remember the news of this standoff. Today the court threw out all the charges.

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UPDATE 01/09/18: Federal judge Gloria Navarro yesterday dismissed all charges against the Bundys, ending their long courtroom clash with the FBI, BLM, and Justice Department. Navarro found “outrageous” government misconduct and “A universal sense of justice has been violated.” Many of the FBI abuses occurred during Saint Jim Comey’s time as FBI chief.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 1/9/18 at 7:47 pm to
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A whistleblowing memo by BLM chief investigator Larry Wooten charges that BLM chose "the most intrusive, oppressive, large-scale and militaristic trespass cattle (seizure) possible'' against Bundy. He also cited a "widespread pattern of bad judgment, lack of discipline, incredible bias, unprofessionalism and misconduct, as well as likely policy, ethical and legal violations" by BLM officials in the case. BLM agents even "bragged about roughing up Dave Bundy, grinding his face into the ground and Dave Bundy having little bits of gravel stuck in his face'' while he was videotaping federal agents. Wooten also stated that anti-Mormon prejudice pervaded BLM's crackdown.


Next up: civil suit and Bundy wins a metric frickton of money.
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
36692 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 7:52 pm to
This should be big news. But alas...
Posted by TimeOutdoors
AK
Member since Sep 2014
12123 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 8:00 pm to
It was big news yesterday
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 8:06 pm to
-Guy owes the federal government about ~$1 million.
-Threatened BLM agents with "bloody civil war" while his militia friends pointed guns at them
-Violated three court orders
-Domestic terrorist
-Set up road blocks and checkpoints in his hick town
-He's an end of times nutjob which speaks to his mental instabilities

Imagine a few dozen Black Lives Matters guys armed with guns and military-style equipment swarmed a street and overpass surrounding a few cops who were busting a drug deal. They believe the war on drugs is not constitutional and they "don’t recognize the United States government as even existing" and are threatening a bloody civil war if the law enforcement officers do not back down..

Would you defend them?
Posted by rhinolsu
Tyler, TX
Member since Sep 2007
765 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 8:10 pm to
quote:

-Guy owes the federal government about ~$1 million.
-Threatened BLM agents with "bloody civil war" while his militia friends pointed guns at them
-Violated three court orders
-Domestic terrorist
-Set up road blocks and checkpoints in his hick town
-He's an end of times nutjob which speaks to his mental instabilities

Imagine a few dozen Black Lives Matters guys armed with guns and military-style equipment swarmed a street and overpass surrounding a few cops who were busting a drug deal. They believe the war on drugs is not constitutional and they "don’t recognize the United States government as even existing" and are threatening a bloody civil war if the law enforcement officers do not back down..


We see this crap on the news every day from Democrats, regressives, and swamp scum.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 8:11 pm to
quote:

Imagine a few dozen Black Lives Matters guys armed with guns and military-style equipment swarmed a street and overpass surrounding a few cops who were busting a drug deal. They believe the war on drugs is not constitutional and they "don’t recognize the United States government as even existing" and are threatening a bloody civil war if the law enforcement officers do not back down..

Would you defend them?


You do not know what you are talking about.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 8:12 pm to
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You do not know what you are talking about.


You don't find the analogy good? Why not?
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 8:13 pm to
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The feds charged the Bundys with conspiracy in large part because the ranchers summoned militia to defend them after they claimed that FBI snipers had surrounded their ranch. Justice Department lawyers scoffed at this claim in prior trials involving the standoff, but newly-released documents confirm that snipers were in place prior to the Bundys' call for help.


so the government send snipers to collect a civil debt and the citizen is suppose to just roll over??
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73439 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 8:14 pm to
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so the government send snipers to collect a civil debt and the citizen is suppose to just roll over??
Naw bmy would prefer he died.
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
20273 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 8:16 pm to
Are you retarded? Because post like this give people the impression you are retarded
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 8:17 pm to
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so the government send snipers to collect a civil debt and the citizen is suppose to just roll over??


Think that has anything to do with his history of threatening violence? He threatened violence against BLM agents in the mid 90's and they called off the cattle gather then too.
This post was edited on 1/9/18 at 8:21 pm
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41187 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 8:18 pm to
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Federal judge Gloria Navarro


Even an Obama appointee saw through the government's BS
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73439 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 8:20 pm to
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Federal judge Gloria Navarro Even an Obama appointee saw through the government's BS
Nut punched the corrupt prosecutors.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 8:20 pm to
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Even an Obama appointee saw through the government's BS



A mistrial does not mean that he's innocent
This post was edited on 1/9/18 at 8:22 pm
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73439 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 8:21 pm to
He can never be charged again concerning this matter do you know what that's called?
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
20273 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 8:23 pm to
Stop. Your stupid is showing
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 8:24 pm to
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He can never be charged again concerning this matter do you know what that's called?



Innocent is not the word you're looking for. I'd say "fortunate". There are plenty of people in jail for the stand-off as is.
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
13365 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 8:24 pm to
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The feds belatedly turned over multiple threat assessments, which revealed that the Bundys were not violent or dangerous.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73439 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 8:25 pm to
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Innocent is not the word you're looking for. I'd say "fortunate". There are plenty of people in jail for the stand-off as is.
YYou aren't very smart are you. something something prejudice is what you need to learn.
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