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Good message from Sundance @ tCTH.

Posted on 6/22/25 at 3:31 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 3:31 pm
Thoughts on The Bombing of Iran


quote:

The tone, attitude and rhetoric from the group demanding support for Israel-First above all interests, is the same tone, attitude and rhetoric from the group demanding unlimited support for Ukraine…

….. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with you for noticing the similarity.

You are stable, pragmatic and wise. You are also not alone.

The alignment of cheers from the Coliseum crowd for the attack on Iran from both Israel-first and Ukraine-Always groups is slightly unnerving in the way it makes you grimace -quietly- inside.

It is an understandable sense because you do not pretend, nor do you disqualify your intuition.

Perhaps like many, you are comfortably invisible, as you prefer to be, and you observe thoughtfully.

When you attend the July 4th celebration and parade, perhaps you do not join the crowd in gleeful clapping as you watch the latest military type police MRAP vehicles pass by. Instead you think of what they signify, a bigger picture.

You are prudent; yet you do not wish to disrupt the smiles of those who do not carry the same thoughts. It’s ok, you are not alone.

We hope for the best in all things, yet we do not carry the singularities of self-interest that demand conformity to our views or priorities. Those shouting in our ears demanding we clap and smile are not us.

For the recent Iran action, we hope for a ‘one-and-done‘, but we accept the unfortunate reality that hope is not a strategy.

And so we pray….

Love to all,

Steadfast!

~ Sundance
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
10644 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 3:37 pm to
He has a great point ….
Posted by Pecos Pedro
Member since Nov 2024
745 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 3:39 pm to
I see Sundance has pivoted from pandering to the Q-Tards to pandering to the Joo Tards.

Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68054 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 3:44 pm to
John McCain is masturbating in his grave today. Sad to see you with that crew.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
10454 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 3:45 pm to
Thanks, JihadPot.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 3:46 pm to
I read the article. This passage right here stands out..

"It is an understandable sense because you do not pretend, nor do you disqualify your intuition".


MAGA has lost it's intuition. An intuition that was once strong on matters such as war.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
97682 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 3:47 pm to
What if you arent Ukraine or Isreal anything but support nuke sites getting roasted when a hostile Gov that chants death to us doesnt want to negotiate.
I would be shocked if this wasnt discussed with the Abraham accords. Doesnt seem like any of those countries are mad

quote:

as you watch the latest military type police MRAP vehicles pass by


What does this mean?

Wasnt sundance like a grocery store bagger?

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475929 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

MAGA has lost it's intuition


Naw

A lot of neocons with groupie mentality joined the cool kids and lied (sometime to themselves).
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

I see Sundance has pivoted from pandering to the Q-Tards to pandering to the Joo Tards.


Sundance never pandered to the Q-tards. In fact he ridiculed them.

But I do understand how this commentary is hurtful to the Mark Levin and John Bolton types. Their response is to pull the antisemitism card every time. Perpetual victims.
This post was edited on 6/22/25 at 3:53 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475929 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 3:49 pm to
quote:

I would be shocked if this wasnt discussed with the Abraham accords. Doesnt seem like any of those countries are mad


Leave it to you to not know who is Sunni and still try to discuss the issues
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23550 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 3:53 pm to
This Israel/Iran situation has zero correlations with Iraq or Afghanistan. Which both are the understandable source of most folks cynicism.
The biggest difference is our nations leadership.
Why is it so hard for folks to stand by thier vote??
What has Trump done to deserve anyone's doubt since taking office??
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475929 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 3:55 pm to
quote:

Why is it so hard for folks to stand by thier vote??

Well they voted for the non-intervention version of Trump MAGA and they got the neocon version

You don't think that will lead to "abandoning their vote?"

quote:

What has Trump done to deserve anyone's doubt since taking office??

Adopt John Bolton's foreign policy
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68054 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 3:56 pm to
We bombed a country for another country. It's not America First. It's mind-boggling to me that this is being spun as anything other than that.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
10454 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 3:57 pm to
The gulf states hate Iran. It transcends sects. You’re clueless as usual.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90311 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 3:57 pm to
37 Bolton post today not counting McCain
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475929 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 4:00 pm to
quote:

It transcends sects.

It all originated in the Shia-Sunni conflict

Saudi Arabia and Iran are the 2 big dogs in the region and they've been at war in Yemen for like 10 years now

ISIS in Iraq didn't help
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475929 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 4:02 pm to
I answered his question

I don't know if you can tell but last night was a big deal and is causing a huge schism in the Anti-DEM coalition
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90311 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 4:04 pm to
Keep pounding Bolton and McCain you can easily exceed 300 posts today!
Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
10452 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

We bombed a country for another country. It's not America First. It's mind-boggling to me that this is being spun as anything other than that.


If you have a well-trained attack dog you don't let it die., mind-boggling to me that this is being spun as anything other than that.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475929 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 4:05 pm to
quote:

If you have a well-trained attack dog you don't let it die., mind-boggling to me that this is being spun as anything other than that.

Neocon bullshite. Got it.
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