re: God Has A Plan For Your Life

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bothers me that, a million babies are killed every year in this country.

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its more like 700,000 but still a lot.

you adopt?

Time is relative; we've know that since Einstein. If there is 'God', I.e., if the essence of manifest Energy and Matter is a form of Self-aware, Consciousness (the Biblical "I Am", then everything that can happen...already has. Therefore, God knows all from *beginning* to *end* of the Created Universe. And as such, there is indeed knowledge of "a plan" , or a trail of progression of all things.

Of course, such knowledge on the part of God is worthless to those of us who are in the linear, time oriented process of evolution. We live, we learn, we employ Knowledge as Power and move toward the kind of Knowledge/Power that God is.

The real issue is whether or not we live one life, and again pop up in another life which is the just consequence of our beliefs and actions in the current life. That Issue is the basis and purpose of Religion; Religion being the Spiritual aspect of a God-based Universal Paradigm. If there is no God - Spiritual Essence as the Source of the manifest Universe - and no next life, then all purposeful discussion is meaningless, and a useless waste of valuable time. Assuming one's quality of life is valuable of course. For many...it ain't; though Humanity is genetically inclined to strive to stay alive.

Bottom line: If where we landed in this life and where we land in the next (assuming such) is not determined by our own free-willed choices and actions, then God does not exist...because an unjust God would not even meet the Darwinian scruples of 'justice'. Much less the higher Morality of a Love-based Spiritual Paradigm.

Hate to do a 'drive by'...but I'm done. Hard day. Wore out. Good accomplishment though. Hot brownies...cold milk, Great Grandaughter and the Lazy Boy. Thank you Jesus.

(I went back and edited the 'w' in "now" to a 't'...because it was critical to the point. Thread went 10 pages so it seemed somewhat of interest.)

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I'm not. I'm saying, one doesn't need to know or have a relationship with god to have morals.

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All people have a relationship with God. For some, He is their father, and for others, they are His enemies.

Even so, morality requires a standard to judge by. I’m not saying that people can’t be moral apart from God. I’m saying that no objective standard of morality can exist apart from God. The result would mean that morality would be nothing more than personal opinion, making the concept of morality arbitrary and ultimately irrational.

We tend to view morality as a single standard for right behavior and tell others when we think they are acting against that standard. We judge them to be wrong, evil, or immoral for violating that standard. However, if God and His objective, unchanging, and universal moral standard that is based on God’s very character did not exist, it wouldn’t make sense to view morality as an objective and universal truth that all people were accountable to.

We would have no basis for condemning anything or anyone simply because they weren’t acting in accordance to our personal opinion. The response to any personal moral indignity would be, “So what? That’s just your opinion.”

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In christians scenario, it's like saying B.C., there were NO good moral people.

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The Christian view is that what constitutes moral goodness is that which confirms to God’ moral law. That law is the reflection of Gods very character, so that standard has always existed even prior to the 10 commandments being given to Moses or Christ’s ministry. This moral law has been written in the hearts of all mankind since we are created in God’s image, which is why we instinctively know right from wrong even if we haven’t been exposed to biblical teaching.

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Indigenous people didn't/don't know of christ yet, were/are some very good moral people.

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See above for why.

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Because you now know of god and yet turn away and not accept him, you are a sinner and cannot be moral?

I don't accept that pretense or understand that thought process.

Just doesn't work for me.

Signed, Simpleton.

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All are sinners, whether we know God or not. It’s precisely why Jesus died in the cross.

People act “morally” because we were created as moral creatures. Our sinful natures distort that moral aspect and we sin. We do what we know we shouldn’t and we don’t do what we know we should. We even sear our consciences by purposeful rebellion so that we aren’t even convicted by our sin any longer. Even so, we are all accountable to God for our disobedience and need to repent of our sins and look to Christ for forgiveness.

Without God’s perfect moral standard, everyone can be considered “moral” as long as they have their own personal standard for right and wrong. Hitler was a very moral guy in that way since he did what he thought was morally right in his view. Because that view turns morality to mere personal preference, it essentially nullifies all meaning for moral goodness.

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God does only do what is just because He can do no other, 

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you get around how reality is with fake satan.

all good Father

bad stuff. devil

children.

Praying to Mary is not only blasphemous it’s pointless. There is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,