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re: Global warming??? I don't think so!!!
Posted on 12/5/14 at 5:22 pm to Zach
Posted on 12/5/14 at 5:22 pm to Zach
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What is the primary agenda of the GW deniers?
Short term profits at the expense of long term needs.
The primary agenda of the GW crowd is to conduct science and using that to understand the predictions we need to make to insure we have a planet that is livable in 50, 100, 200, 500 or so years where half the species and the entire ocean food chains havent vanished.
Let me ask you a question, dont you think it would be easier to bribe a climate scientist at an obscure department of some university as opposed to a Congressional member of the United States...dont you think the Oil Industry would have just figured that out and gone the easier route to getting denialist science out there.
so back to your point on transfer of wealth...its a stupid conspiracy theory.
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Posted on 12/5/14 at 5:34 pm to Jim Ignatowski
What an awful fricking article.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 5:55 pm to Cruiserhog
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participation in the climate change debate
Exactly what IS the proper degree of participation in the climate change debate?
Where is that debate taking place? - is there ANYONE on earth to support the proposition that the climate is NOT changing??
WHY did the 'Global Warming' activists change to 'Climate Change' as their meme?
Is it changing warmer or cooler? - Is it a long term or short term change? - Is there anything anyone can do to fix it? - if they can fix it, what is the target climate we are shooting for? - Has anyone ever determined what the 'ideal' global temperature is?
Climate changes. It always has - it always will. Period.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 6:54 pm to ChineseBandit58
If you believe in global warming and you think that we have so much control over this climate you have shite for brains.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 11:37 pm to Jim Ignatowski
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How many times during that 4.5 billion years has the earth gotten warmer...or cooler...???
How many times have rocks fallen off of mountains?
Billions I'd guess.
Kinda of foolish to suggest that a man could actually cause a rock to fall off a mountain, when nature has done it so many times without any help from man, right?
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The earth and the weather has been changing for 4.5 billion years...
Exactly. Its Exxon's 4th law of Thermodyanamics: Because nature has changed the climate in the past, it is physically impossible for man to change it. That's like a fundamental law of nature. It would have to be, for your argument to make any damn sense whatsoever.
Funny how we can influence the composition of the atmosphere - but the climate isn't allowed to respond to that because it man-made. Weird how that happens. Does God come down and say "Hey, physical processes - I know that's a lot of extra CO2 - but MAN made that - so don't respond to it!" ?
This post was edited on 12/5/14 at 11:42 pm
Posted on 12/5/14 at 11:55 pm to Jim Ignatowski
I'm not a scientist, so I don't know anything about this.
Posted on 12/6/14 at 12:04 am to SpidermanTUba
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Kinda of foolish to suggest that a man could actually cause a rock to fall off a mountain, when nature has done it so many times without any help from man, right?
If you think this is a valid comparison then you have taken a direct hit from quite a few of these rocks...
You can look at the record temperatures for any city and they are all random. Don't fool yourself. If temperature shifts were correlated to mankind and their industrial prowess it would be a steady or near steady rise but man made global warming simply is fiction no matter how bad you wish it were so to push an agenda!
Posted on 12/6/14 at 12:06 am to Crimson1st
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. If temperature shifts were correlated to mankind and their industrial prowess it would be a steady or near steady rise
Oh definitely. That's like a basic law of nature. One that you just made up.
This post was edited on 12/6/14 at 12:07 am
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