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re: Gay Coffee Shop Owner Denies Christians Service
Posted on 10/3/17 at 7:34 pm to boxcarbarney
Posted on 10/3/17 at 7:34 pm to boxcarbarney
I don't understand why people are so damn bothered by private businesses doing as they see fit. That goes for all sides.
As a side note, back in my christian days I had someone tell me that if they KNEW their fetus would ultimately be an unrepentant homosexual they would get an abortion. The reasoning was they could later seek forgiveness while saving the child from hell.
At the time I found the comment repulsive, but in hindsight now (and from the outside looking in) it's really the only rational solution if you genuinely believe practicing homosexuals go to hell.
As a side note, back in my christian days I had someone tell me that if they KNEW their fetus would ultimately be an unrepentant homosexual they would get an abortion. The reasoning was they could later seek forgiveness while saving the child from hell.
At the time I found the comment repulsive, but in hindsight now (and from the outside looking in) it's really the only rational solution if you genuinely believe practicing homosexuals go to hell.
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 7:35 pm
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 7:50 pm to boxcarbarney
quote:
The pictures of aborted fetus' at the hands of gays that we found hidden in the store are possibly the most offensive images I've ever seen. They spent the day putting stickers on everything they could in the neighborhood
If true, he absolutely can kick them out. I imagine the Christian bakery case would have gone different had the gay guys put posters or stickers of gay men having sex all over the shop
Posted on 10/3/17 at 8:28 pm to gthog61
quote:What? I support the Christian Bakers' rights. But if I support their rights, why do you need to dishonestly represent the situation, to argue against a view that I do no hold?
Thank you for summing up how this is utter hypocrisy on the part of the left, just flip the fricking words and you have the what the buttfrickers did to the Christian bakery.
I find it odd that the people who find every opportunity to irrationally demonize the other side are ironically behaving similar to the subsample of the other side that actually represents what is being demonized. Your posts frequently fit this quite well.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 8:39 pm to Salmon
quote:
so apparently the poster was a picture of an aborted fetus painted in rainbow colors and the group was putting them all over the shop
so I'd say the group would lose bigly if they tried to sue based off religious discrimination
Wrong... they had placed them outside on public property and then went inside. The owner of the coffee shop then refused service to them based on their religious beliefs.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 8:44 pm to the808bass
quote:Then why would they make the hands dropping the dead fetus rainbow color, rather than the fetus itself? Of course, it doesn't seem like prolife advocacy was their purpose, otherwise they wouldn't have put the video up without any context, to demonize the owner's response, with his Yelp page. They didn't want to help the issue of prolife, they wanted to find someone that they could dishonestly use as the enemy of their position, and use that position and the moral superiority of it to trick people into confirming their strong beliefs.
Or they were pointing out that at some point in the future, people could abort their gay fetus.
I wish people were more skeptical, and they should be when they are something like that, but people who exploit that are despicable in my opinion.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 8:59 pm to LSU_Saints_Hornets
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"If I go my boyfriend right now and frick him in the arse are you going to tolerate that?!"
Imagine the posters the christian guy could have made with footage from that. Rainbows, arse F'ing, and aborted fetuses
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:00 pm to boxcarbarney
Cool false equivalency. Gays minding their business and wanting a cake does not equal Christian dipshits trolling a business with their bullshite.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:19 pm to Statestreet
quote:Why are you so confident that the people posting the images around the area, didn't also bring it inside, if they had any not yet posted? It doesn't seem like a reach to bring them inside. The owner is holding a poster, and he said it was in his shop. So given that it's not outrageous to think, why would you disregard that, especially given how dishonestly they presented the whole situation in the video?
they had placed them outside on public property and then went inside.
quote:What religious belief do they hold that caused him to refuse service? Did all of a sudden a business that has been open for years, suddenly decide people who have a Christian beliefs should not be served? That seems like a terrible business plan, and it seems like this would have been apparent long before now.
The owner of the coffee shop then refused service to them based on their religious beliefs.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:24 pm to Scruffy
quote:
Scruffy
Nailed it.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:25 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
Why are you so confident that the people posting the images around the area,
They stated it in the video.
quote:
What religious belief do they hold that caused him to refuse service? Did all of a sudden a business that has been open for years, suddenly decide people who have a Christian beliefs should not be served?
You need to ask the owner of the coffee shop this. But it was clearly because of the customers beliefs
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:29 pm to Statestreet
Geez.
This has all the hallmarks of a fake incident.
Ever notice how these things happen in places that are convenient for guys like this?
I mean he has a coffeeshop in Seattle. I can see it. You know Seattle being a hotbed of Right-To-Lifers.
And they snuck into his shop and put photos of aborted foetuses all over the place.
Screw that idiot. He isn't even trying. Just another poop swastika, just another Haven Monahan, just another Duke Lacrosse incident, Tawanna Brawley...
You know, I could go on and on and on.
This has all the hallmarks of a fake incident.
Ever notice how these things happen in places that are convenient for guys like this?
I mean he has a coffeeshop in Seattle. I can see it. You know Seattle being a hotbed of Right-To-Lifers.
And they snuck into his shop and put photos of aborted foetuses all over the place.
Screw that idiot. He isn't even trying. Just another poop swastika, just another Haven Monahan, just another Duke Lacrosse incident, Tawanna Brawley...
You know, I could go on and on and on.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:35 pm to Sunbeam
quote:
This has all the hallmarks of a fake incident.
Like the gay couple asking the Christian Baker to make a wedding cake then filing a lawsuit? Same shite
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:44 pm to Statestreet
quote:So you watch a dishonestly presented video and you just take the people being dishonest for their word? I'm assuming that since you've came to such a strong conclusion, you also viewed the extremely disturbing poster that caused the owner's outrage, that was conveniently left out of the video. Does someone plastering that poster seem like a person who would not bring it into the establishment?
They stated it in the video.
quote:Well since the beliefs are actually about a poster, which may or may not represent their beliefs, then do you not find that poster to be something that was reasonably bother a person, especially a homosexual? And if it's about a disgusting poster, then is it actually about one's beliefs?
You need to ask the owner of the coffee shop this. But it was clearly because of the customers beliefs
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:48 pm to Statestreet
quote:No. Although there is a good chance that this was part of the intent. This would be like a gay couple posting fliers of Christ standing over a massacre with a big grin on his face, implying that Christ and Christianity are tool of death. Then deciding to go in to a business that they know is owned by Christians, and asking for any random cake.
Like the gay couple asking the Christian Baker to make a wedding cake then filing a lawsuit? Same shite
In other words, I actually support the bakers in the incident you're referring to, but the situation is not comparable.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:53 pm to buckeye_vol
Abortion is awful and not pleasant. No way really to present it pleasantly.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:55 pm to Rakim
quote:back atcha?
How you like them apples
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:57 pm to mattgr1983
quote:
Cool false equivalency. Gays minding their business and wanting a cake does not equal Christian dipshits trolling a business with their bullshite.
Yes the are similar because both groups were just seeking attention, nothing more
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:11 pm to Statestreet
quote:But that doesn't mean that it can't be presented inaccurately and intentionally target someone to make it a personal attack through the unpleasantness.
Abortion is awful and not pleasant. No way really to present it pleasantly.
The unpleasantness of an issue does not somehow make something that is intended to not only elicit feelings that of unpleasantness, and more specifically feelings that approximate to unpleasantness, somehow valid.
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