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re: GA Governor endorses adding photo ID requirements

Posted on 1/12/21 at 7:42 am to
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
26799 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 7:42 am to
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is incumbent upon as a society to make accommodations for the physically and mentally challenged among us when it isn't overly intrusive.


We do make accommodations, you guys elect democrats in every office.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45384 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 7:44 am to
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Who cares if you support Trump???? No one.

That’s not true.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34454 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 7:48 am to
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Why not just assume the Democrats are loading soldiers on planes and flying them to every corner of the nation to hose down Trump supporters? Or better yet enslaving them and forcing them to do their bidding? Why stop at lists if you are imagining things anyway???

Why go that route. If big tech can silence a president, destroying my life with the click of a button is nothing.

quote: You don’t know this. You are guessing. While I don’t know that there are lists, I’m guessing that there are and that they will be acted upon under a Harris presidency.

With all due respect you are suffering from an unfounded fear. Why would you guess there are lists of Trump supporters??? Who cares if you support Trump???? No one.

You are either incredibly stupid or intentionally dishonest in your “assessment,” because nobody can be that ignorant.



quote: I look at it this way, if all of the conditions are right for a hurricane to pop up, then I pay attention. To expand on that analogy - what we have now is Hurricane Katrina heading for New Orleans and you saying, “What are you scared of, it hasn’t hit us yet. It will turn just like they always do. Your fear is unfounded.”


Hurricanes rarely "pop up"....I don't know for certain but it seems like it would be nearly impossible for one to do so and impact anything other than the SE coast of Florida, Georgia and possibly the Carolinas without some warning today. But once upon a time hurricanes did come out of nowehere nearly with only the warnings of ships lucky enough to return to port....and people didn't live in crippling fear of hurricanes. There is no warning sign that Trump supporters are going to be put on a list. The conditions aren't ripe for any such thing....it is simply an unfounded fear.

We will agree to disagree. As for it being unfounded, there are numerous formerly high ranking Democrat’s that have expressed exactly that. If you haven’t noticed, then your ignorance is stunning in scope.

Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22381 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 7:48 am to
It's a start. Needs to extend way beyond GA.

Ultimately, we need to re-instate in-person voting. Both sides should be equally affected. Time to say "Tough Titty" if you can't show up.
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
9501 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 12:53 pm to
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The Republican caucus in the state Senate was among the first to call for big changes. It wants to end no-excuse absentee voting, which was introduced by a Republican-controlled legislature in 2005. Members also want to ban ballot drop boxes and implement a photo ID requirement for voters that have a specific excuse to vote absentee.

“As soon as we may constitutionally convene, we will reform our election laws to secure our electoral process by eliminating at-will absentee voting," the caucus said in a statement in December. "We will require photo identification for absentee voting for cause, and we will crack down on ballot harvesting by outlawing drop boxes."

Georgia's chief election officer, Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, has endorsed the idea of ending no-excuse absentee voting, which was utilized by about 1.3 million voters in the November election — spurred by voters trying to avoid in-person polls amid the coronavirus pandemic. He has also said he wants a photo ID requirement for absentee voting, despite repeatedly saying that there was no evidence of systemic fraud.

Gabriel Sterling, a top official in the secretary of state's office, said Wednesday that the increase in absentee voting created logistical challenges for counties, which had to process large numbers of absentee ballots while also conducting early voting and preparing for election day. “Essentially there's a three-week period where they have to run three elections at a time,” Sterling said.

But the push to end no-excuse absentee voting could encounter some resistance from House Republicans.

House Speaker David Ralston said Thursday that he wants election reforms and is forming a special committee on election integrity to propose legislation. But he added that “somebody is going to have to make a real strong case to convince me" of the need to end no-excuse absentee voting.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111622 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 12:55 pm to
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Gabriel Sterling, a top official in the secretary of state's office


He’s a contractor. He quit his job as a “top official in the Secretary of State’s office” to become that contractor. At virtually twice the pay.
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
22175 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 12:59 pm to
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That fricking retard was on Ben S show today, and had the tiny balls to say this is all on Raff, and Raff said he didn't find nothing in a county...so we good.


Probably referring to the audit if 10% of the absentee ballots in Cobb Co by the gbi. That’s a cya move and a joke.

Kemp knows he’s TOAST in 2022 and he’s gonna try to come on strong to win us back over. Fat chance.
Posted by bizeagle
Member since May 2020
1173 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 1:20 pm to
divorcing the suggestion from Kemp, assuming more details will be added, it is a step in the right direction. A lot more must be done to tighten up the process besides photo IDs. When I voted in person I asked the poll worker, “how do you know that I am the person in the picture on my driver license when I am wearing a mask and baseball cap?”. Answer, “we don’t check that, just the ID # versus the voter registration list”. Obviously, that’s a gap in the process but not like the canyons that exist in the absentee voter process
Posted by DeltaTigerDelta
Member since Jan 2017
11354 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 1:22 pm to
I don’t have a driver license. Can I use my MARTA rider license or ticket stub as proof?
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
9501 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 2:54 pm to
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When I voted in person I asked the poll worker, “how do you know that I am the person in the picture on my driver license when I am wearing a mask and baseball cap?”. Answer, “we don’t check that, just the ID # versus the voter registration list”. Obviously, that’s a gap in the process but not like the canyons that exist in the absentee voter process


The in person I’d check is for sure more reliable. Part of me believes they (Gov and SOS) just want to use the systems they fought for. The voter ID compromise will do away with signatures all together and just use drivers license numbers .

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He’s found common cause with Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, who wants to eliminate a voter’s signatures as the main verification method for an absentee ballot and replace it with options that could include requiring a voter to submit a copy of his or her driver’s license or an ID number with the ballot.


They will push for picture ID then settle on using ID# which will actually be easier to fraud than signatures but way less work. As long as that ID# is in the system ...then who cares. At that point, we might as well just vote online.
Posted by bizeagle
Member since May 2020
1173 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 7:28 pm to
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The in person I’d check is for sure more reliable. Part of me believes they (Gov and SOS) just want to use the systems they fought for. The voter ID compromise will do away with signatures all together and just use drivers license numbers . quote: He’s found common cause with Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, who wants to eliminate a voter’s signatures as the main verification method for an absentee ballot and replace it with options that could include requiring a voter to submit a copy of his or her driver’s license or an ID number with the ballot. They will push for picture ID then settle on using ID# which will actually be easier to fraud than signatures but way less work. As long as that ID# is in the system ...then who cares. At that point, we might as well just vote online.

My point was that voter ID in person is the least of the problem. Not sure what Kemp is suggesting, maybe it is just a political vague sound bite but the elephant in the phone booth is the absentee ballot system. It has been thoroughly corrupted by DNC operatives like Stacey Abrams, Raphael Warnock and others. Ask Brian Kemp how does voter ID stop the gigantic absentee/mail-in ballot/ ballot harvesting debacle that you and your Secretary of State have fumbled??? Governor, you and Reffensparger have been duped!!
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
37915 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 7:32 pm to
So brave of the Georgia governor

So brave


For the first time in my life I don’t hate Sherman anymore
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140796 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 7:34 pm to
He said frick you. That means he does niot give a shite about your opinion.

But you continue to waste your time. Go snuggle with Sebastian.
This post was edited on 1/12/21 at 8:12 pm
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
10151 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 7:55 pm to
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No one but yourself can help you get over your fears....we can, will and do make accommodations for you

Some form of affirmative action?
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 5:55 am to
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america right now is almost a mirror image of 1930s germany


It ain't even close. Just the fact that the United States isn't 15 years removed from being routed in a war we started by attacking a neighbor in a fit of nationalist fervor for expansion and told by the victors in that same war that we broke it now we had to pay for it makes the analogy fatally flawed.

There are some things about the US today which were true in Germany in the 1930's. For years leading up to the Fascist takeover in Germany the German right had fought against leftist policies in Germany which created the most progressive nation on earth at the time and an economic powerhouse the likes of which had rarely been seen. When the bill for WW1 was presented to Germany for their arrogance and nationalism the people of Germany saw the progress they had made for years prior to WW1 stripped from them and were open to the idea that "those other people" were making victims of them. They were open to lies and disinformation because they had enjoyed a very progressive lifestyle in their lifetimes and were no longer....since there was no way they could be responsible for this themselves they came to the conclusion it was "them" who had caused all of the problems.

We are in the same boat in the US. White people in this country enjoyed a helluva ride in the era between the end of WW2 and the mid 60's. Then we decided it would be a good idea to send working class sons to SE Asia and wage a police action we were never committed to winning. We also engaged in a cold war with Russia at this time out of necessity. As we did these things the rest of the world began to recover from WW2, mostly on our dime...we rebuilt German and Japanese manufacturing and kept the world safe for their shipping their products all over the globe....but we forgot that American workers existed at all. In the 1980s we bought a bill of goods which has always been well known to be based in a fallacy but we wanted to believe in some economic miracle which would slow the decline of the working class in the US. When it became blatantly obvious the miracle many knew would never materialize was not going to materialize we started looking for answers and the worst among us blamed "them"...immigrants, minorities....when in fact it was our buying into trickle down economics, allowing US companies to save money which was invested overseas while we increase military spending to mitigate the risk of doing so. Meanwhile US workers were, accustomed to a steady income sufficient to live a damned fine life, felt the economic pinch which required 2 incomes...leading to all manner of ill shite socially. We the people then fell into the trap of cheap money and got ourselves into financial slavery to live the American dream. When this idiocy crashed we blamed "them" and a leader emerged who would indeed tell us it was "them" and not our own greed and ignorance.

The only correlation between the rise of Hitler and Trump that is similar is a population accustomed to living well suddenly finding themselves not doing so as easily and a charismatic leader coming along and blaming it on "them".
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12521 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 6:02 am to
Photo ID is worthless for mail in voting . It’s also worthless stopping the poll workers and dominion from adding vote when ever they want .
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42962 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 6:19 am to
He’s hoping to save his job and avoid being primaried in the next gubernatorial election.
Posted by mightyMick
Member since Aug 2018
3067 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 6:23 am to
Does anyone really believe that these traitors in Georgia government are going to do a damn thing to ensure vote integrity? Really? They already screwed you people and fought full audits of this past election. They certified this past election. Even if they did pass some sort of vote id nonsense, they won't follow it or they'll cheat around it if necessary. Georgia, and other states, have been taken over. They'll never see a fair election again. That's a fantasy.
This post was edited on 1/13/21 at 6:45 am
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