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re: From a Historical Perspective, is Dunkirk “White-Washed”?

Posted on 12/17/17 at 2:09 pm to
Posted by vodkacop
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 2:09 pm to
Kinda like replacing the white guys in Iwo Jima monument with minorities even though it was white guys who raised that flag.
Posted by asurob1
On the edge of the galaxy
Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 2:12 pm to
no.

libs are just bitching.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 2:17 pm to
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There seems to be a growing movement on the internet that Christopher Nolan ‘Whitewashed’ Dunkirk by removing any reference to ‘people of color’.



Some of the French troops caught at Dunkirk were African but there skin color was not why they initially got left behind, it was English first and the movie covered that.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 2:18 pm to
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Kinda like replacing the white guys in Iwo Jima monument with minorities even though it was white guys who raised that flag

I wonder how long it will be before that monument is deemed to be offensive by some activist group.
Posted by ILeaveAtHalftime
Member since Sep 2013
2889 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 2:21 pm to
Is this actually an “internet movement” or is this just something the OP thought up and wanted to validate it somehow?

ETA: the phrase “people of color” is retarded
This post was edited on 12/17/17 at 2:24 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 2:28 pm to
When Dunkirk was first reviewed, a critic said something about the noticeable absence of people of color.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

The whole Russian army, and 90% of the fighting in the pacific theater was non-white.


Is this really bad trolling or just being dumb?
Posted by ILeaveAtHalftime
Member since Sep 2013
2889 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:00 pm to
It’s definitely a troll. Or he’s just excluding the Slavs from being classified as “white”. They aren’t Anglo-Saxon or western but it’s still remarkably silly, considering their skin color
This post was edited on 12/17/17 at 3:01 pm
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:19 pm to
back during this time period blacks were not very numerous in and military. if they showed blacks in dunkirk movie then THAT was fiction unless he was a servant to a general.

USA was the most inclusive military as far as having black servicemen and even then they were only allowed to be cooks and did servant type jobs
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39386 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:20 pm to
It was USA Today review and was ridiculed for it.

“The trio of timelines can be jarring as you figure out how they all fit, and the fact that there are only a couple of women and no lead actors of color may rub some the wrong way,” Mr. Truitt wrote Monday.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

Two new-ish things (last 10 years +/-) in movies that really annoy me:

1. Placing blacks in historical movies in rolls that would not have existed during that time either because there were no blacks or due to the culture of the time they wouldn't have been able to be in that roll.



Like the push for Idris Elba to play the next Scottish old money orphan in the British Secret Service? I know it's not historical, but they want to change books/storylines to fit their SJW bullshite.

quote:


2. Having 115 lb model looking women beating the shite out of grown 6' plus, 220 lb plus men (basically NFL linebackers).



This too. The "empower women" movement is nuts too.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39386 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:29 pm to
I would say the French were...they were so undermanned they used as many men from their African colonies as they could.

The Tirailleurs Senegalais were created as the first permanent units of black African soldiers under French rule in 1857. These were not professional soldiers; they were drawn from the ranks of the ex-slaves and social outcasts who were sold to the French by the local African chiefs.

With the French entry into World War I these Tirailleurs Senegalais were sent to Europe to defend France. The number of West African troops serving under French command in World War I comprised about 170,891 men, and approximately 30,000 of them were killed. In Senegal alone more than a third of all males of military age were mobilized and sent to France to fight.

After the war the French colonial authorities passed the Conscription Law of 1919, which called for universal male conscription in peacetime as well as wartime. Hundreds of thousands of the Tirailleurs Senegalais were compelled to fight in France's colonial wars and to provide labour brigades for the colonial authorities.

In 1940, African troops comprised roughly 9 percent of the French army.


The movie shows what about 20 French Soldiers in the town...and of that they show 2 African soldiers.

So I suppose Nolan probably got it just right.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38296 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:31 pm to
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Well didn't the movie show some French troops in the movie and some of them were black?

Just saw it two nights ago. I remember seeing two black guys waiting in line for one of the ships. Given the actual numbers that's a generous representation.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 5:17 pm to
quote:

They aren’t Anglo-Saxon or western but it’s still remarkably silly, considering their skin color


Considering whites are originally from the Caucasus region and people there are definitely white Slavs haha
Posted by 56lsu
jackson mich
Member since Dec 2005
8035 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 6:19 pm to
that's something the repubs can never do
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 7:09 pm to
quote:

Like the push for Idris Elba to play the next Scottish old money orphan in the British Secret Service? I know it's not historical, but they want to change books/storylines to fit their SJW bullshite.


The books and movies aren’t tied together. Getting butthurt over Elba being bond is ridiculous.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 7:11 pm to
A female Bond is about the pointless thing I can think of

Oh wait a black guy? Meh, whatever
This post was edited on 12/17/17 at 7:12 pm
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
35851 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 7:17 pm to
quote:

Placing blacks in historical movies in rolls that would not have existed during that time either because there were no blacks or due to the culture of the time they wouldn't have been able to be in that roll.



Are you ok with all Romans speaking with a British accent?

Posted by vl100butch
Ridgeland, MS
Member since Sep 2005
37043 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 7:17 pm to
quote:

back during this time period blacks were not very numerous in and military. if they showed blacks in dunkirk movie then THAT was fiction unless he was a servant to a general.

USA was the most inclusive military as far as having black servicemen and even then they were only allowed to be cooks and did servant type jobs


no, you're not quite correct....the US Army had two black cavalry regiments (9th and 10th -- Buffalo Soldiers) and a black infantry regiment (24th or 25th) in the Regular Army...there were also some black National Guard units as well pre WW2...

the French had several African units most notably the Senegalese and from Chad...

the Indian Army wasn't part of the BEF nor were there any Gurkhas...
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
42042 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 7:18 pm to
Movie should have had Denzel Washington with a British accent.
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