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re: Free Speech and Criticism of Israel
Posted on 4/15/25 at 1:04 pm to PQuin
Posted on 4/15/25 at 1:04 pm to PQuin
People should be free to criticize whomever. But you do not have freedom to occupy buildings, harass other students or deface public property. You do not have the freedom to incite violence. Tucker has done none of these things. The ones targeted have.
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 1:10 pm to High C
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You can’t separate the two. It completely changes the issue
This is false. I hate Israel and I hate terrorists. It isn't one side or the other.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 1:10 pm to notsince98
What did Tucker and Candace say about Israel?
Posted on 4/15/25 at 1:51 pm to PrattvilleTiger
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What did Tucker and Candace say about Israel?
Well Candace Owens has been criticizing Israel since October 7th. She has been exposing a lot about the blackmail operations, etc. Most here will say that she’s gone off the rails into conspiracies, but I seriously doubt that any of them have actually watched her content for themselves.
Tucker’s fatal flaw was allowing Thomas Massie and Darryl Cooper to speak, and that’s about it.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 1:54 pm to PQuin
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How do you feel about the idea of Americans facing these types of consequences for criticizing a foreign nation?
The Idiot King said its ok, so the cult accepts it without question.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 2:25 pm to Lakeboy7
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The Idiot King said its ok, so the cult accepts it without question.
This has to be the most incompetent cult of all time. They can't seem agree with everything cult leader trump says. Cults really knew how to be cults back in the olden days.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 2:30 pm to notsince98
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You can’t separate the two. It completely changes the issue
This is false. I hate Israel and I hate terrorists. It isn't one side or the other.
The comment was in reference to the current situation with Israel and Palestine. I assumed that because of proposed deportations of students over this matter, that’s what OP meant.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 2:34 pm to PQuin
It is not Americans who are facing consequences. It is foreigners who have been allowed into this country. They do not have the same privileges that citizens have nor should they. If they behave in an unseemly manner they should be deported
Posted on 4/15/25 at 2:35 pm to PQuin
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“We can’t win over the hearts and minds of antisemites, because they don’t have hearts and they don’t have minds. What we can do is deport them, we can put them in jail, we can make their lives miserable, we can cut off their funding, and that’s what the Trump administration is doing for the first time.”
Put aside your feelings about Hamas and Islamic terrorism in general. How do you feel about the idea of Americans facing these types of consequences for criticizing a foreign nation?
It's unconstitutional and shitty. Then again, the mere idea of deporting home grown citizens to prisons abroad should be too, but I doubt MAGA is too concerned about it.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 2:37 pm to The Maj
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Are you suggesting that American citizens are being deported?
They arent currently, but Trump has suggested it...and technically the AEA does allow for it under certain circumstances. Currently american citizens of Venezuelan heritage could be deported under the AEA
Posted on 4/15/25 at 2:52 pm to LRB1967
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It is not Americans who are facing consequences. It is foreigners who have been allowed into this country. They do not have the same privileges that citizens have nor should they. If they behave in an unseemly manner they should be deported
I intentionally left out the students being deported, because I knew that this would be the only response I would get.
Right before that quote, he was asked by the reporter if he was referring to Candace and Tucker. He replied “Yes”, and went on to say the quote I originally referenced about punishing American citizens for criticizing Israel.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 3:05 pm to PQuin
No one, neither citizens nor non-citizens (if here legally) should be deported for speaking out on either side of an issue. That is pretty much the definition of free speech. We can't defend free speech only when it suits us or we may as well all join the democrats.
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