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re: Frankfurt police investigating false reports of mass sexual assault on NYE

Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:33 pm to
Posted by Tiguar
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:33 pm to
Iosh runs a contrarian schtick.

There is absolutely no need to correct the record with respect to falsehoods against GOP/conservatives on this board. It would be thread duplication/triplication/etc
Posted by phillypie
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Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

It's interesting that Trump supporters (rightly) are skeptical


They are not highly skeptical. They flat out deny the reports because trump supporters are not capable of such acts.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:35 pm to
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Iosh, are you seriously denying that Germany has not seen an increase in sexual assault?
I wouldn't know, I don't have access to Germany's nationwide crime statistics for the last three years (or whatever baseline "increase" is relative to). Also this is a double negative.
Posted by AUstar
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:35 pm to
Unfortunately for OP, Frankfurt was just one city where it happened. Cologne was the city that made the most news. Such as this BBC report here: LINK

But I'm sure all those women were in on a conspiracy to lie about Muslims.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

Iosh runs a contrarian schtick.

There is absolutely no need to correct the record with respect to falsehoods against GOP/conservatives on this board. It would be thread duplication/triplication/etc
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:39 pm to
I'm trying to shame SFP into leaving his comfort zone and being more contrarian but trolling him is like punching a sack of corn starch.
Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:39 pm to
He took a specific story and tried to overgeneralize it. That isn't what the story was about. People make arguments like that in every thread on this board and it totally derails a conversation. Don't be that guy.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:40 pm to
quote:

Iosh runs a contrarian schtick.


I think this is accurate and he'd admit it.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:41 pm to
See. Most rape claims are false and should be treated as such
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:41 pm to
Yeah, I'm sure some of the allegations made that night in other cities are substantiated. It would beggar belief that 100% of them would turn out to be false. But I think people here tend to do the opposite and assume 100% of them are true, when there's no shortage of people who will make up false stories to the press because they don't like migrants or maybe just want to get their name in the paper.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:42 pm to
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I don't have access to Germany's nationwide crime statistics


Now you do
Posted by gthog61
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:43 pm to
Well wtf did he say?
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:45 pm to
Iosh prefers liberal liberterianism. It's no secret. But he's not as much of a lefty sack of shite as he sometimes leads on.

Just like I'm not as much of a white nationalist as I lead on.



As much.
Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:45 pm to
He obviously posted quotes from an article that show there were some false allegations of sexual assault. Nowhere did he make a claim about the trend of sexual assault in Germany.

So this right here:

quote:

Iosh, are you seriously denying that Germany has not seen an increase in sexual assault?


No, he isn't making that claim. He never said anything about that. Don't be that guy.
Posted by CavalryAg07
ChiTown
Member since Jul 2009
2834 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:46 pm to
Sorry but we are not the ones beating the shite out of you during peaceful protest. That's your clan.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:47 pm to
Correct me if my German is wrong but this from p3 appears to show a decline in rape and sexual assault b/w 2014 and 2015, yes?

Are there 2016 figures yet?

Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:48 pm to
Now he is making that claim based on data.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

But he's not as much of a lefty sack of shite as he sometimes leads on.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:51 pm to
Careful. You're going to attract toddy. I think I remember him saying he was into bears.
Posted by CavalryAg07
ChiTown
Member since Jul 2009
2834 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:54 pm to
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Germany's migrant rape crisis has now spread to cities and towns in all 16 of Germany's federal states. Germany now finds itself in a vicious circle: most of the perpetrators are never found, and the few who are frequently receive lenient sentences. Only one in 10 rapes in Germany is reported and just 8% of rape trials result in convictions, according to Minister of Justice Heiko Maas. Up to 90% of the sex crimes committed in Germany in 2014 do not appear in the official statistics, according to André Schulz, the head of the Association of Criminal Police.


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