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Former police union president now identifies as transracial, claims he feels black
Posted on 1/19/20 at 6:51 am
Posted on 1/19/20 at 6:51 am
Been waiting someone to try this.
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For most of his life, the former head of a Miami police union, Javier Ortiz, identified as a white Hispanic man, but at a city commission meeting on Friday, Ortiz told commissioners said that he is now black.
"I'm a black male. Yes, I am," Ortiz said, adding, "and I am not Hispanic. I was born in this country. That's how I feel."
The hearing was part of a commission meeting studying allegations of racism against black employees of the Miami Police Department.
While being questioned by a commissioner, Ortiz, who has faced accusations of discrimination from black city of Miami residents in the past, said he recently learned that there are people in his family "who are mixed and are black." The comments were part of a bizarre exchange between Ortiz and local officials.
"When you applied to the police department, did you classify yourself as a black male or a white male at the time?" Commissioner Keon Hardemon asked.
"I know I put white male, but I don't know if I put Hispanic," the police officer responded. According to the Miami New Times, Ortiz has been claiming he's black since at least 2014 when he claimed he was black in a lieutenant application and again later in a 2017 captain application. Both applications were made public by the Miami Community Police Benevolent Association, a union for black officers, which has complained of acts of racism being ignored in the Miami Police Department.
At the hearing, an incredulous Commissioner Joe Carollo asked Ortiz, "When did you have this coming to God moment that you were black? When did God tell you that?"
"Well, I learned that there are people in my family who are mixed and that are black," he replied.
"Ok, let's not talk about the degree of blackness," Hardemon, who is African-American, interjected.
"Oh, no, you're blacker than me," Ortiz replied to the visibly perplexed and troubled commissioner. "And if you know anything about the 'one drop rule,' which started in the 20th century, which is what identifies and defines...what a black male is or a negro, you would know that if you have one drop of black [blood] in you, you are considered black."
Ortiz concluded his remarks by adding that half of his family is Jewish, which amused the commissioners.
"Mr. Ortiz claimed that he was black. Now he says he's Jewish black. I'm afraid maybe next month he'll be a black Jewish woman. I don't know," Carollo said.
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For most of his life, the former head of a Miami police union, Javier Ortiz, identified as a white Hispanic man, but at a city commission meeting on Friday, Ortiz told commissioners said that he is now black.
"I'm a black male. Yes, I am," Ortiz said, adding, "and I am not Hispanic. I was born in this country. That's how I feel."
The hearing was part of a commission meeting studying allegations of racism against black employees of the Miami Police Department.
While being questioned by a commissioner, Ortiz, who has faced accusations of discrimination from black city of Miami residents in the past, said he recently learned that there are people in his family "who are mixed and are black." The comments were part of a bizarre exchange between Ortiz and local officials.
"When you applied to the police department, did you classify yourself as a black male or a white male at the time?" Commissioner Keon Hardemon asked.
"I know I put white male, but I don't know if I put Hispanic," the police officer responded. According to the Miami New Times, Ortiz has been claiming he's black since at least 2014 when he claimed he was black in a lieutenant application and again later in a 2017 captain application. Both applications were made public by the Miami Community Police Benevolent Association, a union for black officers, which has complained of acts of racism being ignored in the Miami Police Department.
At the hearing, an incredulous Commissioner Joe Carollo asked Ortiz, "When did you have this coming to God moment that you were black? When did God tell you that?"
"Well, I learned that there are people in my family who are mixed and that are black," he replied.
"Ok, let's not talk about the degree of blackness," Hardemon, who is African-American, interjected.
"Oh, no, you're blacker than me," Ortiz replied to the visibly perplexed and troubled commissioner. "And if you know anything about the 'one drop rule,' which started in the 20th century, which is what identifies and defines...what a black male is or a negro, you would know that if you have one drop of black [blood] in you, you are considered black."
Ortiz concluded his remarks by adding that half of his family is Jewish, which amused the commissioners.
"Mr. Ortiz claimed that he was black. Now he says he's Jewish black. I'm afraid maybe next month he'll be a black Jewish woman. I don't know," Carollo said.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 6:59 am to Crimson Wraith
And it's not even a Babylon Bee article. Al B. Damned. Just what the hell would possess a person to formulate this condition?? I'm drawing a blank.
Oh, and they had that white chick turned black chick up there in Washington State. Was even the head of the local NAACP.
Oh, and they had that white chick turned black chick up there in Washington State. Was even the head of the local NAACP.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 7:03 am to Crimson Wraith
I do note improvement.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 7:05 am to Crimson Wraith
“Can’t we all just get along!”
Signed- Rodney King
So if I am white I cannot join and have no support from them. Isn’t that considered discrimination?
I wish someone would sue and force institutions or groups that are prejudicial to minorities would force these organizations to admit all people.
If they can force one group to do it one way why not the opposite.
Let’s say I was an NOPD officer, and I started a white officer benevolent support union, how soon before it would be shutdown or sued or organizer and members fired?
Signed- Rodney King
quote:
Miami Community Police Benevolent Association, a union for black officers,
So if I am white I cannot join and have no support from them. Isn’t that considered discrimination?
I wish someone would sue and force institutions or groups that are prejudicial to minorities would force these organizations to admit all people.
If they can force one group to do it one way why not the opposite.
Let’s say I was an NOPD officer, and I started a white officer benevolent support union, how soon before it would be shutdown or sued or organizer and members fired?
This post was edited on 1/19/20 at 7:37 am
Posted on 1/19/20 at 7:06 am to davyjones
quote:
Just what the hell would possess a person to formulate this condition??
"The hearing was part of a commission meeting studying allegations of racism against black employees of the Miami Police Department."
He probably also got points on the promotion tests he was taking if he was in the right ethnic categories. Trying to double-dip?
Posted on 1/19/20 at 7:21 am to Powerman
The translucents, eh?
"The translucents" lol
I kill me.
"The translucents" lol
I kill me.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 7:23 am to Crimson Wraith
I hope, for his sake, that it's for fraudulent promotion purposes.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 7:28 am to Crimson Wraith
why not?
for those that believe in 57 genders,
this is actually a shorter leap.
for those that believe in 57 genders,
this is actually a shorter leap.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 10:56 am to Crimson Wraith
quote:
"Well, I learned that there are people in my family who are mixed and that are black," he replied.
"Ok, let's not talk about the degree of blackness," Hardemon, who is African-American, interjected.
How does one goes from being black to all of nether sudden being African in one sentence?
Posted on 1/19/20 at 11:11 am to Crimson Wraith
When Tim Watley converted to Judaism purely for the jokes some 23 years ago, he caused all of this type of stuff to unfold.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 11:25 am to Crimson Wraith
So, if I identify as a billionaire, does that mean I can write checks as if I am one?
I have been looking at some multi million $ houses out in Sedona; now I think I can finally afford one of them.
I have been looking at some multi million $ houses out in Sedona; now I think I can finally afford one of them.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 11:58 am to Crimson Wraith
If a man can pretend to be a woman, what’s wrong with a Hispanic man saying he is black? The genie is now out of the lamp and we can’t go back.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 1:36 pm to Crimson Wraith
The face of the Black strugglr.
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