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Former director of Pentagon UAP program acknowledge US possession of crashed material
Posted on 6/1/19 at 6:45 am
Posted on 6/1/19 at 6:45 am
Luis Elizondo (former director of Pentagon UAP program) on Tucker Carlson program
He acknowledges US possession of crashed UAP material (metamaterial...)
This is getting little play outside the US...
I can speak from firsthand experience
https://m.youtube.com/watch?lc=UgwFohLQTUsgYUZ3m5x4AaABAg&v=ZOzhb8ZHBxw
Other vids on mainstream outlets:
Good Morning America
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hz06sXefNPg
Fox
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8tRSRghWteg
The world is getting ready to change
Let’s hope and pray it is for the better...
He acknowledges US possession of crashed UAP material (metamaterial...)
This is getting little play outside the US...
I can speak from firsthand experience
https://m.youtube.com/watch?lc=UgwFohLQTUsgYUZ3m5x4AaABAg&v=ZOzhb8ZHBxw
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The US Gov possesses crashed UFOs - Confirmation 1,220 views
Other vids on mainstream outlets:
Good Morning America
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hz06sXefNPg
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Military Personnel Warn Of UFO Sightings - ABC News 878 views
Fox
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8tRSRghWteg
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Fox News Segment: UFOs Exist And Do Things 'This World Is Not Capable Of'
The world is getting ready to change
Let’s hope and pray it is for the better...
Posted on 6/1/19 at 6:56 am to ThinePreparedAni
Something is certainly happening.
Posted on 6/1/19 at 7:02 am to ThinePreparedAni
quote:Did you enjoy being probed?
I can speak from firsthand experience
Posted on 6/1/19 at 7:08 am to ThinePreparedAni
So we have vibranium now???
Posted on 6/1/19 at 7:08 am to coolpapaboze
quote:
Did you enjoy being probed?
No. You misunderstand the context of what I posted above
I have not had direct contacts. I have had indirect experiences in the sense of synchronicities in everyday life (that is a story for another time).
As things progress this statement will make more sense (there is a spiritual/metaphysical component to the phenomenon that the public will be eased into)...
This post was edited on 6/1/19 at 7:10 am
Posted on 6/1/19 at 7:10 am to ThinePreparedAni
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I have had indirect experiences in the sense of synchronicities in everyday life (that is a story for another time).
What better time than the present?
Posted on 6/1/19 at 7:15 am to ThinePreparedAni
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Former director of Pentagon UAP program acknowledge US possession of crashed material
I don't believe this.
Posted on 6/1/19 at 7:15 am to PhDoogan
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What better time than the present?
Too hard to summarize
It gets into perceptions of reality / models of human consciousness
The pdf below goes into it better than I can explain
The work of Jacques Vallee and John Keel (high strangeness)
Light reading material:
Warning: PDF link
Content quoted below
https://bdigital.ufp.pt/bitstream/10284/781/1/223-239Cons-Ciencias%2002-8.pdf
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Incommensurability, Orthodoxy and the Physics of High Strangeness: A 6-layer Model for Anomalous Phenomena
Jacques F. Vallee and Eric W. Davis *
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The Challenge of High Strangeness
The rational study of reported cases of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), including religious apparitions such as the so-called “miracles of Fatima” and other Marial events is currently at an impasse. This situation has as much to do with the incomplete state of our models of physical reality as it does with the complexity of the data. A primary objection to the reality of UAP events among scientists is that witnesses consistently report objects whose seemingly absurd behavior “cannot possibly” be related to actual phenomena, even under extreme conditions. In that respect the similarity is striking between contemporary events reported as UFO close encounters and the more traditional observations of entities described as “angels,” elves and fairies, or deities. Skeptics insist that superior beings, celestial ambas- sadors or intelligent extraterrestrial (ETI) visitors simply would not perpetrate such antics as are reported in the literature. This argument can be criticized as an anthropocentric, self-selected observation resulting from our own limited viewpoint as 21st century Homo Sapiens trying to draw conclusions about the nature of the universe. Nonetheless, the high strangeness of many reports and the absurdity attending religious miracles must be acknowledged.
Advocates of UAP reality, on the other hand, generally claim that the Extra-Terrestrial Hypothesis (ETH) centered on interstellar travelers from extrasolar systems visiting the Earth remains the most likely explanation for the objects and the entities associated with them. Accordingly, they would re-interpret Biblical stories and religious apparitions in the framework of visits from space aliens. This argument, too, can be challenged on the basis of the witnesses’ own testimony: Ufologists have consistently ignored or minimized reports of seemingly absurd behaviors that contradict the ETH, by selectively extracting data that best fits their agenda or version of the theory. Thus the ETH, just like the skeptical argument, is based on anthro- pocentric self-selection (Vallee, 1990). Here we are witnessing an interesting overlap between the SETI and UAP paradigms: each excludes consideration of the other when laying claim to the legitimate search for and contact with potential non-human intelligence.
In the view of the authors, current hypotheses are not strange enough to explain the facts of the phenomenon, and the debate suffers from a lack of scientific information. Indeed, from the viewpoint of modern physics, our Cosmic Neighborhood could encompass other (parallel) universes, extra spatial dimensions and other time-like dimensions beyond the common 4-dimensional spacetime we recognize, and such aspects could lead to rational explanations for apparently “incomprehensible” behaviors on the part of entities emerging into our perceived continuum. As it attempts to reconcile theory with observed properties of elementary particles and with discoveries at the frontiers of cosmology, modern physics suggests that mankind has not yet discovered all of the universe’s facets, and we must propose new theories and experiments in order to explore these undis- covered facets. This is why continuing study of reported anomalous events is important: It may provide us with an existence theorem for new models of physical reality.
Much of the recent progress in cosmological concepts is directly appli- cable to the problem: Traversable wormholes (3-dimensional hypersurface tunnels) have now been derived from Einstein’s General Theory of Relativity (Morris and Thorne, 1988; Visser, 1995). In particular, it has been shown that Einstein’s General Theory of Relativity does not in any way constrain spacetime topology, which allows for wormholes to provide traversable connections between regions within two separate universes or between remote regions and/or times within the same universe. Mathematically it can also be shown that higher-dimensional wormholes can provide hypersurface connections between multidimensional spaces (Rucker, 1984; Kaku, 1995). Recent quantum gravity programs have explored this property in superstring theory, along with proposals to theoretically and experimentally examine macroscopic-scale extra-dimensional spaces (Schwarzschild, 2000). Thus it is now widely acknowledged that the nature of our universe is far more complex than observations based on anthropocentric self-selection portend. In this respect, ufologists and SETI researchers appear to be fighting a rear- -guard battle. Both suffer from identical limitations in the worldview they bring to their own domains, and to their antagonism.
Anthropocentric Bias in the SETI and UAP Paradigms
Posted on 6/1/19 at 7:20 am to aTmTexas Dillo
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I don't believe this.
It is mentioned in the first NY Time article
The alloys were reportedly stored at Bigelow facility in Las Vegas
TTSA has been rumored to plan a demo of said exotic material
From a different thread:
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artifacts
https://silvarecord.com/2019/03/17/government-briefed-on-metamaterials-ufo-program-alive-well-elizondo/
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Government Briefed on Metamaterials; UFO Program “Alive & Well” – Elizondo
MARCH 17, 2019
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Lue Elizondo spoke at the Scientific Coalition for Ufology’s Anomalous Aerospace Phenomena Conference on 3-15-19. Various attendees of the conference took photographs and recordings of the speech and shared them online.
Deep Prasad shared this photo and also claims (this is unverified) that Metamaterial results and analysis will be covered in the upcoming TTSA documentary TV show on The History Channel.
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What makes this material so special? Now, in some cases, this material… was told it’s special. Through analysis…guess what? Not so special. Some of it is absolutely special. I won’t point out which ones on that slide but there are some that are absolutely special and have been briefed to some very, very senior levels of this government, and they do remarkable and extraordinary things and they’re built in such a way that to this day we still can’t replicate them…to this day. So, that should be very telling. Material science is a critical piece of this. You can’t just sit there and say, ‘Ah ha! I told you so.’ That’s not what this is about. This is not…this effort is not about satisfying the natural curiosity of people who want to know right now and I sad before, there’s a difference in giving information right and giving it right now.”
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Notice the Vatican listed above...
https://www.catholicleague.org/vatican-hiding-aliens/
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IS THE VATICAN HIDING ALIENS?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/the-vatican-on-space-the-discovery-of-intelligent-life-wouldnt-mean-theres-an-alien-jesus-somewhere-10433527.html
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The Vatican on space: The discovery of intelligent life wouldn't mean there's an alien Jesus somewhere in the universe
The Vatican has its own astronomy programme
Abby Ohlheiser Sunday 2 August 2015 16:30 29 comments
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/1802
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Dear John,
Because the War in Space race is heating up, I felt you should be aware of several factors as you and I schedule our Skype talk. Remember, our nonviolent ETI from the contiguous universe are helping us bring zero point energy to Earth. They will not tolerate any forms of military violence on Earth or in space. The following information in italics was shared with me by my colleague Carol Rosin, who worked closely for several years with Wernher von Braun before his death. Carol and I have worked on the Treaty on the Prevention of the Placement of Weapons in Outer Space, attached for your convenience.
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We're arguably closer than ever to war in space. Most satellites orbiting Earth belong to the U.S., China and Russia. And recent tests of anti-satellite weapons don't exactly ease the scare factor. It sounds like science fiction, but the potential for real-life star wars is real enough. It's just not new. Fears of battles in space go back to the Cold War and several initiatives, like President Reagan's "Star Wars" missile-defense system. Deputy Defense Secretary Robert Work spoke to Congress in June about the threat. He said during a speech the technology the U.S. developed during the Cold War allows it "to project more power, more precisely, more swiftly, at less cost." Take a moment to think about everything satellites do. GPS, surveillance and communications all depend on them. And the Scientific American notes you can disable satellites without missiles. Simply spray-painting lenses or breaking antennas is enough. President Obama requested $5 billion for space defense in the 2016 fiscal budget. And a former Air Force officer told the Scientific American most of the United States' capabilities in space have been declassified to send a clear message: There are no rules for war in space.
Best regards,
Edgar Edgar D. Mitchell, ScD Apollo 14 astronaut
6th man to walk on the Moon
Zero Point Energy Consultant
Posted on 6/1/19 at 7:22 am to ThinePreparedAni
quote:
It gets into perceptions of reality / models of human consciousness
A different perspective on the phenomena:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PYJqhMAgOcs
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Terence McKenna - Aliens and Archetypes 339,246 views 5K 138 Share Save Report
loadedshaman 10,493 subscribers SUBSCRIBE
Published on Sep 24, 2011
Terence McKenna - Thinking Allowed - "Aliens and Archetypes" 1990
loadedshaman = beerjeep
McKenna referencing many interesting things including:
Jacque Vallee
Jungian psychology
Mushroom Intelligence / other ways of knowing/consciousness
I will link related content below:
[img]https://media.sott.net/arkblog/Flying-saucers-Jung.jpg>
PDF of Vallee interview:
https://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/Vallee_01.pdf
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Jacques Vallee hesitated before agreeing to be interviewed about the subject for which he's most famous: UFOs. It's not that he's reluctant to discuss the topic or tussle with the skeptics. After all, he's written close to a dozen books on UFOs -- several of them best-sellers -- analyzing a notoriously ethereal subject as a hard-headed physical scientist, folklorist, and sociologist. He believes there is more than enough solid evidence to make a compelling case for the existence of UFOs. And he doesn't shy away from an honest debate. It's the hard-core believers who give Vallee pause. Anyone who has observed the semi-academic cockpit known as "UFOlogy" knows that close encounters of the UFO expert kind shed little light and much heat, dogma and territorial sniping. Vallee's views about UFOs are far more exotic and far stranger than what he calls the reigning "nuts and bolts" approach to the subject.
Consequently, he's been attacked by believers so often that he jokingly refers to himself a "heretic among heretics". As Vallee puts it, "I will be disappointed if UFOs turn out to be nothing more than spaceships." In his recent autobiographical book Forbidden Science, Vallee summed up his views about the provenance of UFOs -- a viewpoint that he's developed through decades of research. "The UFO phenomenon exists. It has been with us throughout History. It is physical in nature and it remains unexplained in terms of contemporary Science. It represents a level of consciousness that we have not yet recognized, and which is able to manipulate dimensions beyond time and space as we understand them."
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60GCAT]: Why are Americans obsessed with the idea that outer-space aliens are the pilots of UFOs?
[Vallee]: I think Americans -- if they are interested in the subject -- are very literal. They want to "kick the tires", which is a good American thing to do. They want to do reverse-engineering on the propulsion system. And when I tell them, "Look, maybe those things don't have a propulsion system", you get a strange reaction. Just like, if you remember, in "Close Encounters", the Truffaut character keeps going around saying this is a sociological phenomenon -- not just physical. And he has a lot of trouble getting that idea across.
[60GCAT]: At one point, you subscribed to the theory that UFOs might be extraterrestrial in origin.
[Vallee]: When I met Stephen Spielberg, I argued with him that the subject was even more interesting if it wasn't extraterrestrials. If it was real, physical, but not ET. So he said, "You're probably right. But that's not what the public is expecting. This is Hollywood and I want to give people something that's close to what they expect." Which is fair. [60GCAT]: So what do we know for sure about the nature of UFOs?
[Vallee]: There is a phenomenon. We don't know where it comes from. It's characterized by its physical [traces]. 80 percent of all the cases have trivial explanations. But I'm talking about 2 the core phenomena. It seems to involve a lot of energy in a small space. It seems to involve pulsed microwaves among other things. There isn't much that is known about the effect of pulsed microwaves on the brain, so it's quite possible that some of the stories that you get from people are essentially induced hallucinations in sincere witnesses (i.e., the witnesses are not lying). They really have been exposed to something genuine. But there is no way to go back to what that thing was based on their description, because their brain has been affected by proximity to that energy.
https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/the-secrets-of-the-wood-wide-web
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Annals of Technology
The Secrets of the Wood Wide Web In London’s Epping Forest, a scientist named Merlin eavesdrops on trees’ underground conversations.
By Robert MacfarlaneAugust 7, 2016
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Earlier this summer I spent two days there, wandering and talking with a young plant scientist named Merlin Sheldrake. Sheldrake is an expert in mycorrhizal fungi, and as such he is part of a research revolution that is changing the way we think about forests. For centuries, fungi were widely held to be harmful to plants, parasites that cause disease and dysfunction. More recently, it has become understood that certain kinds of common fungi exist in subtle symbiosis with plants, bringing about not infection but connection. These fungi send out gossamer-fine fungal tubes called hyphae, which infiltrate the soil and weave into the tips of plant roots at a cellular level. Roots and fungi combine to form what is called a mycorrhiza: itself a growing-together of the Greek words for fungus (mykós) and root (riza). In this way, individual plants are joined to one another by an underground hyphal network: a dazzlingly complex and collaborative structure that has become known as the Wood Wide Web.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dibKZHhij6k
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Plants Use An Internet Made of Fungus
156,542 views 4.5K 52 Share Save Report Gross Science 291,319 subscribers SUBSCRIBE
Published on Jan 24, 2017
It's called the "Wood Wide Web."
Subscribe to Gross Science! https://bit.ly/1FkxVLb ? Twitter! https://twitter.com/gross_science ? Tumblr!
https://grossscience.tumblr.com/ ?Want more gross info?? Pathways for below-ground carbon transfer between paper birch and Douglas-fir seedlings: https://bit.ly/2kocFzg Defoliation of interior Douglas-fir elicits carbon transfer and stress signalling to ponderosa pine neighbors through ectomycorrhizal networks: https://go.nature.com/2ko1iaS Suzanne Simard’s TED Talk: https://bit.ly/2kodnMW --
Host, Producer, Editor, Animator Anna Rothschild
Also an internet of sorts, for humans...
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/02/09/trip-treatment
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The Trip Treatment Research into psychedelics, shut down for decades, is now yielding exciting results.
By Michael PollanFebruary 2, 2015
A window into the mind of God...
Posted on 6/1/19 at 8:18 am to ThinePreparedAni
I can finally say it.
Some of us have known this for a long time
Some of us have known this for a long time
This post was edited on 6/1/19 at 8:20 am
Posted on 6/1/19 at 8:28 am to ThinePreparedAni
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Too hard to summarize
It gets into perceptions of reality / models of human consciousness
In other words, just a really good acid trip.
Posted on 6/1/19 at 8:46 am to ThinePreparedAni
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TPA
I have always believed in the 4th Dimension. There are things we can not explain. Call in Spiritual or the Matrix. Not sure. Would love to sit down with you over a beer and bend your ear! Thanks Patriot.
Posted on 6/1/19 at 8:46 am to ThinePreparedAni
I saw this on Tucker last night. It was wild.
Posted on 6/1/19 at 8:49 am to ThinePreparedAni
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Former director of Pentagon UAP program acknowledge US possession of crashed material
Can you imagine traveling here for 10,000 years at Warp 5 only to crash on earth? Well, I guess that's what happened in the CW Series Roswell New Mexico.
Posted on 6/1/19 at 8:50 am to ThinePreparedAni
Posted on 6/1/19 at 9:33 am to ThinePreparedAni
Do you think that the existence of extraterrestrial/ extra-dimensional entities and the existence of the Christian God of the Bible are mutually exclusive?
Posted on 6/1/19 at 9:41 am to aTmTexas Dillo
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Can you imagine traveling here for 10,000 years at Warp 5 only to crash on earth? Well, I guess that's what happened in the CW Series Roswell New Mexico.
More likely they were shot down
Posted on 6/1/19 at 9:43 am to Tigerinthewoods
Some people think aliens are demons
Some people think angels and demons are aliens
Very possible it’s all connected.
Ancient History is just too damn interesting.
If they would just show up and say hey that would be great.
Some people think angels and demons are aliens
Very possible it’s all connected.
Ancient History is just too damn interesting.
If they would just show up and say hey that would be great.
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