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re: For Those Here Who Hate Trump, Yet Also Claim to Despise the Dem Party Agenda, Tell Me...

Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:51 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467278 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:51 am to
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Here you go again, ascribing something to me that is false. I mentioned both policy (Democrat agenda).and the neocon wing of the Republican Party.


Here is me quoting your questions

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who or what you're looking for. Are you wanting to return to the days of Establishment Republicans like Bush, McCain, Romney, Ryan, McConnell, etc?

Or, is it that you want a political outsider for President who isn't part of the corrupt Political Establishment, but you want it to be somebody other than Trump? If so, who would it be?


Where is policy referenced?

Are you relying on the "what you're looking for"? If so, why did you just list people as your potential options? What policy options did you list?

Posted by leftywilliams
Member since Nov 2025
147 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:52 am to
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what you're looking for.


$$$
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 11:00 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467278 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:52 am to
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I’ve been on here long enough to appreciate the rich irony here.


What irony? What politician have I been a super promoter of?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467278 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:53 am to
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You tell us how you would do all that with this Congress and this electorate.


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Maybe you can tell us how your definition of a "fiscal conservative" would first get elected and then actually accomplish anything with this Congress and this Electorate.


Did OP ask this?

Or are you trying to create a diversion from OP to discuss something else?
Posted by RedStickFox
Member since Sep 2022
456 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:55 am to
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Or, is it that you want a political outsider for President who isn't part of the corrupt Political Establishment, but you want it to be somebody other than Trump?


I never have been able to wrap my head around this. How exactly is Trump not part of the corrupt political establishment? Literally any politician that is willing to suck up to him is in his good graces. He just supported Andrew fricking Cuomo. He pardoned the former democrat governor Rod Blagoyavich who was found guilty of trying to exchange money for a senate seat.

The list goes on and on. He pardons corrupt politicians, he pardons crypto billionaires (and then claims he doesn't know the guy), he makes a fortune off of anonymous cryptocurrencies etc.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297667 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:56 am to
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Maybe you can tell us how your definition of a "fiscal conservative"


Ron Paul

Not New York Democrats.
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
5113 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:59 am to
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Maybe you can tell us how your definition of a "fiscal conservative" would first get elected


Trump did initially get elected running on shrinking the government and paying down our debt. Certainly he ran on other things as well but I don't think Americans are preconditioned to reject fiscal conservatism.

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then actually accomplish anything with this Congress and this Electorate.


Who knows. There are only a few people in Congress, on this board and in the electorate that actually want to reduce spending. Some of the pols attacked here more than anyone on the right are the fiscal hawks (Roy, Massie and Paul). The message from the right is clear, run on restraint but you better not actually try to do it.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
46460 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:05 am to
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SlowFlowPro


Did I inhibit you in any way from crafting the response you wanted to give? Of course not. What do think "Who or WHAT" meant?.The word "What" doesn't apply to a person


Everybody else in this thread is simply responding with what they want to see. Once again, youre the only one who tried to make it personal.

You know, you said just yesterday that your Dad was a raging alcoholic who "really went off the rails when I was in the 2nd grade." Has it ever occurred to you that you could possibly benefit from getting some therapy for what appear to be some unresolved issues?

I mean, something is obviously wrong when a disproportionate percentage of your posts here have to be condescending, combative, and also have to include you having an obsessive need to tell other posters how much "smarter" you are than the rest of us.

That speaks to a very strong dysfunctional on your part.


Posted by Reflex
Member since Oct 2025
273 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:08 am to
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Smaller government. Less government power at the state and local level.

Cutting federal spending at a meaningful level to deal with our debt.

Returning our rights to their former strength and dismantling the Police State.



Adding to this:

No foreign wars, police actions, anything period.

Gut the military industrial complex and rebuild the entire armed forces lead by actual soldiers, not paper pushing a-hole generals.

End the war on drugs. Period. Yeah, you can go to the store and buy heroin. Who cares? frick the pearl clutching.

Same story with police. Remind them they are there to serve us, not the other way around.

I can keep going.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57241 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:08 am to
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Fiscal hawks


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Massie


Posted by Reflex
Member since Oct 2025
273 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:10 am to
Oh and gut the crony capitalist system that has robbed us blind for decades. Sink or swim mother fricker. There is nothing too big to fail and if you're over leveraged past your skis, tough shite. Die.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297667 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:12 am to
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You know, you said just yesterday that your Dad was a raging alcoholic who "really went off the rails when I was in the 2nd grade." Has it ever occurred to you that you could possibly benefit from getting some therapy for what appear to be some unresolved issues?




Typical MAGA. Cant discuss issues, trashes opponents personal life
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57241 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:14 am to
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Typical MAGA. Cant discuss issues, trashes opponents personal life



Oh my. Your lack of self-awareness is staggering. You call everyone you disagree with a woman. just amazing. You’re just so dumb.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297667 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:14 am to
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I never have been able to wrap my head around this. How exactly is Trump not part of the corrupt political establishment?



MAGA got hooked on the fake "anti globalist" theme.


They linked up with antifa, and have no clue who they have tied themselves to.

MAGA and antifa leading the anti globalist agenda...lolol.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297667 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:15 am to
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Oh my. Your lack of self-awareness is staggering.


So is your lack of vocabulary. You literally use 5-6 canned sentences most of the time.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57241 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:17 am to
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So is your lack of vocabulary. You literally use 5-6 canned sentences most of the time.


You mean like “populism?” fricking moron.
Posted by texas tortilla
houston
Member since Dec 2015
4068 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:18 am to
i just want trump to surround himself with america first people. he says he wants to stop endless wars, yet surrounds himself with neocons who feed him BS info. kellog has no place advising him on ukraine. lindsey graham either.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297667 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:18 am to
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You mean like “populism?” fricking moron.



You dont even know what it means, champ. And youre one of them.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
46460 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:19 am to
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Typical MAGA. Cant discuss issues, trashes opponents personal life


As usual, you have it backwards.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297667 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:25 am to
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As usual, you have it backwards.


Why do you resort to personal attacks when he didnt give you one, gomer?

Its because youre not capable of discussing an issue.
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