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re: For all the talk of civil war sometimes on this board.....I thing we have it backwards

Posted on 6/22/18 at 3:46 pm to
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 3:46 pm to
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I've said this for a while, when violence starts, it's going to be citizen v. citizen.



And when it happens, troops would be called in, just like in other periods post-Civil War when there was widespread civilian violence or threat of violence, like the Rock Springs Massacre, the Little Rock Crisis, and other events.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56702 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 3:48 pm to
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crazy4lsu


The question becomes at what point are servicemen non-compliant with orders? That's when a government really loses effective legitimacy.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 3:55 pm to
If federal troops fire on non-violent protesters, then they can lose legitimacy fast, leading to non-compliance. The government has no interest in losing control of the situation or encouraging violence between citizens or against federal troops. Hence I don't think a situation where federal troops are called in to keep the peace would result in non-compliance, given that non-compliance has not occurred during the other events where federal troops were called.

There might be civil unrest but it's so unlikely that real civil conflict would erupt in the country, as the consequences of that conflict would be worse than dealing with disparate factions through normal means.

Posted by burdhead
WOMP WOMP!!
Member since Apr 2017
6008 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 4:05 pm to
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You don't do your own smithing?
you don't understand....let me put it this way, this weapon will have a lot more "potential" than a normal shotgun
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173763 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 4:07 pm to
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Encouraging left/blue controlled areas to separate in their own self-interest is the best possible way for us to reach a peaceful reconciliation. A Californian secession is, really, the best possible thing for us both, if it is allowed to happen.



The more amicable way for that to happen would be to cede more power to the states. But that's somewhat of a slow transition.
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 4:07 pm to
doubt it...they may throw their soy latte at you though
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173763 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 4:09 pm to
With all the talk of civil war on this board a more reasonable person might just conclude that there are a lot of crazy people here

Just reading the first page of this thread pretty much verifies that
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
48737 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 4:13 pm to
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if somehow, they don't get their blue wave



They won't. Our President said this morning its going to be a red wave. And it will because he's out there personally campaigning.
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 4:51 pm to
Yea, sure man. About same chance of some trumpkin nut case firing the first shot.
Civil war happens the same time the avengers have a fight on the mall in DC.
Posted by MetArl15
Washington, DC
Member since Apr 2007
13556 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 5:04 pm to
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Educate yourself
I’m pretty certain you have no desire to get into a discussion about respective levels of education with me.

Also, the OP legitimately said he looks forward to shooting liberals when they start a civil war. That remains a very strange thing to anticipate with glee. That has nothing to do with Marxism or the Founding Fathers.
This post was edited on 6/22/18 at 5:07 pm
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 5:15 pm to
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I think it is entirely possible to have a peaceful division.


I used to think that, but the reality is that the left doesn't want a peaceful division because they want to rule you, own your productivity, and tell you how to live. Government-Americans don't want a peaceful division because it would reduce the amount of power and money they control.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 5:37 pm to
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You people listen to way too much fear mongering.

Jesus Christ

I listen to liberals........
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