re: For all the Climate Change propagandists

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Tyrusrex

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bonhoeffer45

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There is no evidence that CO2 levels effect climate; either long term, as seen in the graph below; intermediate term, as in throughout the Holocene; or short term, like over the last 150 years. The so called greenhouse effect (which by the way is a poor choice of name since a greenhouse is a closed system and the atmosphere is not) is dominated by water vapor. There is theory and evidence that any possible effects of added CO2 is negated by negative H2O feedbacks for example: clouds in the lower atmosphere. If CO2 has any effect at all then it acts as a radiative thermal insulator. As such, added CO2 will cause increases in temperature in the lower troposphere but decreases in temperature in the upper troposphere where SWIR is radiated out to space. If temperatures drop so does H2O content which negates the effect of added CO2. This alone constitutes a substantial theoretical and evidential basis against the idea of AGW. As you both claim, solar forces alone does not account for the warming that we have been observing over the past 100 years but if one would just turn up the solar activity climate warming gain by assuming a relationship between solar activity and albedo then CO2 based warming is not required to account for what we have been observing.

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For all the Climate Change propagandists
I keep hearing that these storms are "unprecedented" and we have never seen anything like it before.

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but.........now there is also......





............. an earthquake in Mexico.





The Earth is cooking so much, it is literally cracking

Honestly, you don't go from over 10 years without a direct major landfall in the Gulf region to this and call it warming. It's a peek in the normal peeks/valleys game. That's it.

Warming would look more like seriously rising water elevations around the world. Levels never before seen and be shown to be more gradual. But, that's my laymans perspective.

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Did we complain about power plants restrictions when we were cutting down sulfer restrictions to reduce acid rain?

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Lulz
This never really happened in any significant way because of loopholes in the CAA,though.